Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 25th Feb 2007 05:54 UTC, submitted by Valour
FreeBSD It's been a long road to recovery, but after years of mediocre releases, and months of delays in the development process, FreeBSD is finally back on its feet with 6.2-RELEASE. Though it is an excellent operating system, even this latest version offers few or no competitive advantages over Solaris or the other BSDs in a server role, and can never hope to compete with commercial GNU/Linux distributions for desktop computers. FreeBSD 6.2 is what FreeBSD 5.0 needed to be, and for those who have already switched to other operating systems, there are few or no compelling reasons to go back. More here.
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macisaac
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2005-08-28

"1. BSD License.
2. No GPL nazis."

if points one and two are about the license, who's the one being a license zealot? and how useful would a running BSD system with no GPL'ed software be anyhow?

"3. No bloat.
4. Stability.
5. Less code- less bugs. "

you could also say, less features and hardware support then. I like to actually use a system, not admire it's pristine and sparse beauty from afar...

"7. Ports."

...which tend to break after you compile the "wrong" package or something else esoteric goes off.

"9.Less stupid users asking stupid guestions. "

wow, with an attitude like that and folk still whine about why the BSDs aren't more popular? hint: every new user is, um, new the first time they use a different system.

"10. No problem shipping "closed source" drivers and software. "

it's not too hard to be less fussy about that, when hardly _anyone_ is providing you with said closed source drivers and software... at least in Linux, there's a fighting chance said software might actually exist. and how many Linux users have to run some "BSD-compatibility layer" to run their programs?

"11. OpenBSM.
12. Jail.
13. IPMI.
14. OpenSSH.
15. Securelevels (even within jails)."

you honestly think BSDs have a monopoly on security? what, you think all those linux servers are being accessed via plain text telnetd or something? ever hear of kerberos, chroots, virtualization, selinux, apparmor, etc? (yeah I know, some of those are certainly not Linux specific, but they do exist on Linux.. as does your point 13. OpenSSH...)

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antik Member since:
2006-05-19

"1. BSD License.
2. No GPL nazis."

if points one and two are about the license, who's the one being a license zealot? and how useful would a running BSD system with no GPL'ed software be anyhow?


On another "news": On yet another GNU/Linux distribution "GPL nazis" decided to throw out "not enough free" code from Linux because GPL said so.

"3. No bloat.
4. Stability.
5. Less code- less bugs. "

you could also say, less features and hardware support then. I like to actually use a system, not admire it's pristine and sparse beauty from afar...


Who need features if they are half assed.. uhh, sry- in CVS? Less drivers is FUD from Linux community who never used BSD before. Arguing whos code is bigger and better is futile...

"7. Ports."

...which tend to break after you compile the "wrong" package or something else esoteric goes off.


If "wrong" guy don`t know how to use ports then... I have years of using FreeBSD servers in production and never had any port broken during upgrade.

"9.Less stupid users asking stupid guestions. "

wow, with an attitude like that and folk still whine about why the BSDs aren't more popular? hint: every new user is, um, new the first time they use a different system.


Uh, I forgot Handbook aka Read The f--king Fine Manual. http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html

"10. No problem shipping "closed source" drivers and software. "

it's not too hard to be less fussy about that, when hardly _anyone_ is providing you with said closed source drivers and software... at least in Linux, there's a fighting chance said software might actually exist. and how many Linux users have to run some "BSD-compatibility layer" to run their programs?


Good point- LINUX CAN`T RUN BSD BINARIES! BSDs CAN!

"11. OpenBSM.
12. Jail.
13. IPMI.
14. OpenSSH.
15. Securelevels (even within jails)."

you honestly think BSDs have a monopoly on security? what, you think all those linux servers are being accessed via plain text telnetd or something? ever hear of kerberos, chroots, virtualization, selinux, apparmor, etc? (yeah I know, some of those are certainly not Linux specific, but they do exist on Linux.. as does your point 13. OpenSSH...)


Who said monopoly- someone asked what BSDs got and I provided this list. Read www.trustedbsd.org again. OpenSSH is developed by OpenBSD guys BTW.

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