Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Feb 2007 22:26 UTC, submitted by dedownman
Windows "In the world of operating systems, Microsoft Windows Vista is just a baby. It's just now toddling along on new systems being sold throughout the U.S. And, like a small child being dropped by the stork to new parents, it's available to older desktop PCs via Microsoft's download-to-buy program. Giving early adopters such easy, unfettered access to the somewhat untested OS was a bold move by Microsoft. The company had to know that people like those who work at PC Magazine would be among the first to test-drive this new installation option."
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by Zedicus on Wed 28th Feb 2007 22:43 UTC
Zedicus
Member since:
2005-12-05

more bad press yet peeple still rush to vista like its their savior.

(note, last time i posted a similar comment on a vista review i got voted sown, am i missing something?)

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by CowMan on Wed 28th Feb 2007 23:00 in reply to "more and more"
CowMan Member since:
2006-09-26

You argue against the power of the media?!

lol. Nah. Probably just OT.

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by Kroc on Wed 28th Feb 2007 23:07 in reply to "more and more"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

The strangest behaviour I've found is that up and down the Internet, people are continually subconciously 'justifying' Vista to themselves. People are trying to build the cheapest system to run it well, people are trying to get the index number to go over 5, most comments I've read about Vista hide underneath a subtlety of people trying to somehow justify in their mind that Vista is a good standard benchmark to go by for everything; and that it's an acceptable product.

The truth is that it isn't. Comaptibility is dire, resource usage is dire, speed is dire. People think it acceptable, or even justifiable that Vista takes longer to start up and shut down that XP. They say "oh it's a bigger more powerful system, of course it'll take longer, and new hardware will reduce that anyway!". Absolute rot. In five years time Apple and [Linux] have managed to double, even triple the speed of their OS running on exactly the same hardware.

This whole using Vista as a good rule of thumb is inherently wrong. Everywhere around me I see people doping up on stupid pills or something. All the harsh press I think is very called for. The people sitting in offices who are going to have to deal with this monster of an OS can see beyond the geek driven hype fog.

Of all the OSes I've ever used, from any era, Vista has to be the worst I've laid hands on; and that is being objective. People would rather throw money and hardware at Vista to justify it then admit that it's a terrible 'upgrade'.

I'm glad I switched to a Mac now, I know this rant can easily label me as a windows basher and Mac fanboi, but I'm glad I've got a level head about the reality of Vista now that I've used the alternatives. Which is more than can be said of the Mac bashers who have never so much as used another operating system.

Edited 2007-02-28 23:19

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by Joe User on Wed 28th Feb 2007 23:45 in reply to "RE: more and more"
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by joshv on Thu 1st Mar 2007 02:17 in reply to "RE: more and more"
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

"Comaptibility is dire."

Ran almost all of my old programs flawlessly. I now have updates for the rest.

"resource usage is dire"

No, it's not.

"speed is dire."

Faster than XP for me.

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RE: more and more
by graigsmith on Thu 1st Mar 2007 06:22 in reply to "more and more"
graigsmith Member since:
2006-04-05

theres a simple fix for this problem.

microsoft, use an iso file. and have people BURN the dvd before they install it.

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by cheezlbub on Thu 1st Mar 2007 07:48 in reply to "RE: more and more"
cheezlbub Member since:
2006-07-17

microsoft, use an iso file. and have people BURN the dvd before they install it

You're giving end users a lot of credit here. Maybe if burning isos was supported out of the box in XP this would be workable, but I have a feeling that, as things stand, MS would end up with boatloads of customers who can view a shiny iso file on a dvd and are hella confused.

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by unoengborg on Thu 1st Mar 2007 07:21 in reply to "more and more"
unoengborg Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not so sure that there is such a big rush. According the Feb 5 issue of Computer Sweden only 5% of all Swedish companies are expected to invest in Vista technology. One company out of five have decided to not even evaluate the new platform. The figures was based on a study made by Exido that had asked 1500 Swedish companies. Gartner have made similar studies.

However, I guess they change their mind when Vista is all you can get, but right now there is hardly a rush. Something that is confirmed by another article where IT-education houses complain that nobody buys courses on vista and Office 2007.

To me it seams that Microsoft have lost touch with their customers and their needs. I don't know if its just me getting old, but up until the release of windows win2k I looked forward to new software releases. I had hopes that they would make my life easier or at least solve some problems. Now, I just wonder what problems they or additional costs new software releases may cause.

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by jessta on Thu 1st Mar 2007 07:55 in reply to "more and more"
jessta Member since:
2005-08-17

It's the upgrade.
It's the only upgrade they know of.

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by lopisaur on Thu 1st Mar 2007 08:21 in reply to "more and more"
lopisaur Member since:
2006-02-27

There was a time when PC Magazine was actually objective and not a Microsoft-centric rag like it is today and Ulanoff is amongst the biggest poster-children for MS. The only thing I honestly enjoy that comes from the Ziff-Davis' camp is Dvorak's columns, which (at least until now) are still somewhat objective and he remains as sarcastic as ever.
(There was actually a time when PC Magazine was about PCs and not about MP3 players, TVs and whatnot)

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