Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 4th Apr 2007 18:02 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems were once more very kind to send us one of their products for a review. Geeks sells cheap laptops --among others-- and so we asked for a low-cost laptop without an operating system in it for the purpose of this review. They sent us the IBM T23, (currently selling for just $299) and an extra 256 MB stick of RAM ($30). We tested the laptop with three different OSes, read on for more.
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by PipoDeClown on Wed 4th Apr 2007 19:09 UTC
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old for me means: 300MHz P2, for which is not free and good operating system available.

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RE: old?
by CowMan on Wed 4th Apr 2007 19:14 in reply to "old?"
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I was thinking older as well. However, you might want to look into either older releases of current distro's, which won't have problems, or some of the particularly small flavours. I've got a PIII-700 or so with 128mb RAM in the bathroom, the CD drive barely works, hard drives no longer function. I boot DSL - 'Damn Small Linux' - the whole thing is 50mb, and it works admirably. Check it out.

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by raver31 on Wed 4th Apr 2007 23:31 in reply to "RE: old?"
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I've got a PIII-700 or so with 128mb RAM in the bathroom

Why ?

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by StephenBeDoper on Thu 5th Apr 2007 16:25 in reply to "RE: old?"
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Do you have a sealed shower or something? I always thought that steam/condensation would kill a computer pretty quickly in that sort of environment.

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by Doc Pain on Wed 4th Apr 2007 19:32 in reply to "old?"
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"old for me means: 300MHz P2, for which is not free and good operating system available."

I may disagree and explain:

First, you can always use a Linux which was new when the hardware was new. THis combination will work without any problem.

Second, you cannot assume a P2/300 to do everything a 5GHz quadrillioncore new Intel can do. Or, to be more precise, it almost can do everything, but not at the same speed.

I say this because we use a P2/333 at work with FreeBSD 5 and XFCE 3, usually running Opera, X-Chat, OpenOffice 1 and LaTeX. No real speed problems, can you imagine? Hey, it even runs a playable lsdldoom! :-)

This leads me to this statement: Your claim is wrong as long as you can't be more precise. For example, if you want to play up to date games, you won't find a free and good OS for a P2/300. But for other realistic purposes, you surely will.

So "old" depends on what you're planning to do. I would not consider the T23 to be an old computer, even though it may not be the newest one. A P2/300 is quite old, but an 8088 is really old, and here you'll encounter the problem of not getting a usable OS, but not on the T23 or a P2/300.

And finally, remember: Old does not mean bad. Fine difference. And good depends on what you're planning to do.

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by metaph3r on Thu 5th Apr 2007 09:27 in reply to "old?"
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I disagree. I have an old Toshiba Satellite Pro 4270 with a PIII-400, 6GB Harddisk and 256MB Ram. I run Xubuntu 7.04 on it and it runs great. Even when using OpenOffice it is still responsive.

I had Win XP on it before and it also works well.

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RE: old?
by rcsteiner on Fri 6th Apr 2007 19:43 in reply to "old?"
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Try <a href="">Puppy Linux or a similar lightweight distribution. It runs rather nicely on my PPro/200 boxes at home. Needs 128MB, tho.

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