A lot of things have happened in the past few days concerning Zeta, BeOS, and Haiku. In order to create some order in the chaos, Eugenia and I have created a rough timeline of what happened the past 6-7 years. Read on for the timeline and some more thoughts on the matter. Update: Magnusoft ceases distribution of Zeta. Update II: Access answered the questions posed in the article.
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Member since:2005-12-31
If you're going to continue making money, don't you put the cards (licensing agreements) on the table and make sure everything's legit?
Not all businesses are reputable or act in good faith, some only care about making money any way they can and getting away with it.
Linux is the new craze
It's neither a craze nor new.
Maybe not new, but definately a craze. Every company out there seems to have become involved in Linux lately. Many (almost all?) corporations, in technology sector, have embraced and are involved in Linux.
Made? Doubtful. I think the production/sales numbers were greatly exaggerated.
The price is given and the userbase was in an OSNews article ( a Bernd interview ), but could not find it. Some other posts I found, said it was 1 Million CDs Sold (but I believe they may have included free LiveCDs in that number and maybe even update CDs, which go for less, and I can not find the articles / stories to verify any of this). They might have been in the Yellowtab stories which disappeared with yellowtab.com
I'm very confident that I read it was just over 100,000, but if I'm wrong and it was 1 Million (unverified), then I'd really wonder what happened there.
Anyone know where to get the Bernd interview stating userbase or number of Zeta CDs sold for 1.0?
Not questionable, it's settled.
Not settled. If I accuse you of stealing my bike and you deny it, does it mean we settled it. I guess you must have stole my bike, because I said so. (Also for fun, lets assume I'm a reputable person and you're a shady individual. So then, you must have stole my bike because of this). No trial for you (to discover the truth), because everybody knows you stole it.
Edited 2007-04-08 16:53
Member since:2007-03-12
Maybe not new, but definately a craze. Every company out there seems to have become involved in Linux lately. Many (almost all?) corporations, in technology sector, have embraced and are involved in Linux.
This is true. If you look at it on a number of levels, it's just another bunch of people obsessing. I suspect, like its arch-enemy Microsoft, it's just a passing thing. I wouldn't weld my ass to it without making sure I could get out. Nothing lasts forever.
"The Verge has learned that HTC's Chief Product Officer, Kouji Kodera, left the company last week. Kodera was responsible for HTC's overall product strategy, which makes the departure especially notable on the heels of the global launch of the make-or-break One. It's not just Kodera. In the past three-odd months, HTC has lost a number of employees in rapid succession." I really hope HTC pulls it together.
"It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013. This is a snapshot of Debian 'sid' at the time of the Debian 'wheezy' release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release." Important note: 75% of Debian packages are supported bu Debian GNU/Hurd. Impressive.
"The first killer app was VisiCalc. This early spreadsheet turned the Apple II from a hobbyist toy to a business computer. VisiCalc came with room for improvement, though. In addition, a new architecture and operating system, the Intel-based IBM PC and MS-DOS, also needed a spreadsheet to be taken seriously. That spreadsheet, released in early 1983, would be Lotus 1-2-3, and it would change the world. It became the PC's killer app, and the world would never be the same. On May 14, IBM quietly announced the end of the road for 1-2-3, along with Lotus Organizer and the Lotus SmartSuite office suite. Lotus 1-2-3's day is done." Impressive 30 year run.
"There's a disconnect between how Apple CEO Tim Cook sees his company's tax strategies and how some members of the US Senate view it. That became clearer than ever today after Cook and two other Apple executives testified before Congress, explaining why they're holding most of their international income in Irish subsidiaries like Apple Operations International, which declare no tax residency anywhere in the world. AOI hasn't filed a tax return anywhere in the world for the last five years, yet it earned $30 billion in income from 2009 to 2012, according to a Senate report released yesterday." Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's just. Apple, Google, Microsoft, and many more - these companies might not be breaking any laws, but it's obvious to anyone that what they are doing is scummy.
The new WebKit Opera for Android has been released. "Opera 14 for Android is built on top of Chromium 26, with a total overhaul of the UI in native code, making it fit well with the latest Android design guidelines. Go get the build from Google Play or point your browser to m.opera.com, and give it a spin!"
The Verge pointed me to a blog post by Leap Motion - which reveals how their Kinect-like motion control works with Windows 8. "From the second you plug in your Leap Motion Controller, you'll be able to browse the web and interact with your computer just by moving your hands and fingers in the air. With Leap Motion technology and Windows, you can do everything that's possible with multi-touch inputs - without actually touching anything. This also means that existing applications in Windows 7 and 8 will respond to your natural hand and finger movements. Soon, we'll show you how Leap Motion will work with Mac OS X." Quite cool.PocketNow interviews Marc Dillon, and there's an interesting note about why Jolla is keeping the display properties under wraps: "We're leaving some of those details out because we do understand that there are a lot of really big players in the market and they tend to take certain components in the market and dominate them. We created the ability to actually be able to run Sailfish on multiple hardware displays and be able to swap components, so this is part of the demand and supply planning phase. We are committed to this industrial design which is a 4.5-inch display, an 8 megapixel camera on the back and a front-facing camera at the front, and the exact specs of the display we'll provide when we're close to delivery." Something you rarely hear anything about.
"This is my NeXTstation Turbo Color booting the Mac System 7.1 Operating System using a hardware add-on called 'Daydream'. The Daydream has a Mac ROM and a few custom ICs in it and hooked up to the NeXTs DSP port. Turns your NeXT into a full fledged 68k powered Mac." So cool.
"The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 6.1, the first feature update of the NetBSD 6 release branch. It represents a selected subset of fixes deemed important for security or stability reasons, as well as new features and enhancements. Please note that all fixes in the prior security/bugfix updates (NetBSD 6.0.1 and 6.0.2) are also in 6.1."
"At the end of a week in which Electronic Arts confirmed it wasn't developing a thing for the Wii U, one of the software engineers in EA Sports' Canada studio, in a series of since-deleted tweets, disparaged the console as 'crap' and suggested Nintendo should give up on hardware altogether. 'The Wii U is crap. Less powerful than an Xbox 360. Poor online/store. Weird tablet', tweeted Bob Summerwill, listed as a senior software engineer at EA Canada, in a reply to a tweet posting a link about EA's no-Wii U news. 'Nintendo are walking dead at this point'." The Wii U is turning into the 21st century's Virtual Boy.
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2007-04-01
If you are making money, do you want someone to stop you?
If you're going to continue making money, don't you put the cards (licensing agreements) on the table and make sure everything's legit?
Linux is the new craze
It's neither a craze nor new.
As for Palm, I do not have a clue why they let Zeta slide.
For the same reasons you've finally seem to accept about Access: that they were going to have to spend a lot more than the whole issue was worth since Zeta would die on its own anyway.
lots of money was made in the first two years of operation
Made? Doubtful. And at the level you assume it was generating revenue, yellowTab wouldn't have gone belly up and would've been able to buy the code themselves. I think the production/sales numbers were greatly exaggerated.
Zeta will end up illegal or legal status will be questionable
Not questionable, it's settled. The owners of the IP say they weren't made aware of any deal with Bernd or anyone else when they purchased it. If one really and actually exists, they're not bound to any such agreement unless someone can establish that they knew about it. They own the code and any derivatives of it.