Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 12th Apr 2007 18:29 UTC, submitted by Flatline
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "In the usual announcement to the Ubuntu developer list Ubuntu founder Mark Suttleworth this morning announced the name of the next Ubuntu release plus one, due out in October 2007: Gutsy Gibbon. Gutsy will follow Feisty Fawn due for release on April 19. But, more interestingly, Shuttleworth also talked of a new ultra-free version of Ubuntu that can be expected alongside Gutsy Gibbon."
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Luminair
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2007-03-30

Sometimes you have to take a step backward to take two steps forward. Which would you rather have: a purely open software system, OR a system that is X times more popular, drawing in Y more developers, but it uses proprietary video card drivers.

If you want people to use a product, you have to think of them. They want their software to work, because they don't care about it. They have more important things to do than wrangle with the OS on their microwave or computer. I think some members of the FSF need a reality check -- The world is so much bigger and better than nerds like us. SO much bigger.

"in the long run that will leave the user without the power to help himself or his neighbor with their software"

The world runs on Windows, and people are getting along just fine without needing friends to come tweak and recompile their system.

No one can predict the distant future. Maybe chastising users because Nvidia has a business to run is a good idea for 2017, and maybe it isn't. But product development exists in the here and now. To the normal human user, the debate is as simple as this: are you prepared to make me the best product possible? If not, I will go somewhere else.

So the truth is found in an agreement to disagree, a sort of compromise where two sects part ways. The small minority of the population keeps their niche alive, while the majority moves things forward.

This is why Ubuntu is going to have two versions. One product for people who care about all this computer jumbo mumbo, and another product for the rest of us.

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tux68 Member since:
2006-10-24

Sometimes you have to take a step backward to take two steps forward. Which would you rather have: a purely open software system, OR a system that is X times more popular, drawing in Y more developers, but it uses proprietary video card drivers.


But you're focusing on the benefits of being more "popular" and completely ignoring the cost! What benefit is there to short term popularity if it undermines your long term viability?

Open source is what got us in the favorable position we find ourselves today! I'm at a loss as to why so many people fail to appreciate that fact. Once you realize that we have open source to thank for Linux, it's a much smaller step to value and support it. It just doesn't make sense to undermine it in the name "pragmatism" or "popularity".

Currently, the loud proprietary voices are drowning out and obscuring this important message that has the best chance of keeping Linux healthy and viable into the future.

I wish more people using Linux would celebrate open source and stop spending so much time deriding its developers and advocates.

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Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

What cost are you talking about? What is the cost of using closed source software with open source software? Does the mere existence of closed source software assault the existence of open source software?

I don't think so. Open source and closed source software are not mutually exclusive. Just like volunteer work can coexist with for-profit work.

There is room for both, just like there is room for chocolate cake and apple pie.

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John Nilsson Member since:
2005-07-06

The world runs on Windows, and people are getting along just fine without needing friends to come tweak and recompile their system.
For some definition of "fine"... but ok, I hear you. It's not only "tweaking friends" that's the issue though.

It's more like free press. Some parts of the world probably are getting along just "fine" without it. But I'm glad to have it.

It's about the ability to buy service from anyone, not just the original vendor. The ability say hell no I don't need no force upgrades disabling my perfectly fine graphics card. The ability to stop you software from spying on you or doing other nasty stuff to you. It's the typical stuff you'd like from a free market.

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