Linked by Neeraj Singh on Mon 23rd Apr 2007 19:02 UTC
Windows If you shout something loud enough and many people are saying it, does it become true? Some groups of people (include tech journalists and Linux advocates, such as Steven J. Vaughn-Nichols) have a psychological need to find Vista lacking. Mr. V-N has predicted that Vista will have all manner of problems, so his clear interest is to point out everything that is wrong with the OS. Who cares if he has to even make some stuff up?
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RE[2]: Never buying Vista Anyway
by BrendaEM on Tue 24th Apr 2007 02:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Never buying Vista Anyway"
BrendaEM
Member since:
2005-11-23

The sacrifices for DRM in vista are much higher than in XP. If only MS cared about the users security as much.

OpenGL? Funny, it seems that everyone says that it's broken in a big was in vista. In addition, most gamers have found everything in vista graphic-wise buggy and crashy. With this trend, Wine will run MS Windows applications better Linux than Vista does.

It was nice of MS to encourage everyone, and I do mean everyone, to try alternative platforms.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Man, that was a serious load. Most of the Gamers I talk to that have Vista like it for the most part. They have noticed slight differences in speed, but most people still have DirectX 9.0 cards. As far as OpenGl goes, I haven't had too many problems, I don't play many games on my PC, but it handles Celestia and other GL apps just fine, but that is just my own experience.

Edited 2007-04-24 16:42

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Man, that was a serious load. Most of the Gamers I talk to that have Vista like it for the most part. They have noticed slight differences in speed, but most people still have DirectX 9.0 cards. As far as OpenGl goes, I haven't had too many problems, I don't play many games on my PC, but it handles Celestia and other GL apps just fine, but that is just my own experience.


Most of the gamers are complaining now, but like Windows XP, you'll see them praise it like mana from heaven. Windows Vista SP1 will be released in the second half of this year, along with DirectX 10, add to that new games coming not too longer after that.

Add to that the maturity of graphics drivers would have increased; given the complexity of WDDM and what it demands of graphics card driver writers, there will be teathing problems.

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BrendaEM Member since:
2005-11-23

That "slight difference in speed" is Vista's increased DRM overhead.

It's not only games that are affected, it's 3D design aps like Rhino3D's:
http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.aspx/McNeel/RhinoOnVista.html?dif...

OpenGL is not working well for Stellarium:
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1672207&forum_id=2...

And it seems that not overthing is rosy for Celestia users:
http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10919&sid=c5f5f38151a...

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PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

Geez. Read your own links. There are fixes for the mcneel case (they suggest getting a plugin from their site to use directX... perhaps installing the latest ATI/NVidia drivers helps to fix the problem too).

For the next two links, the problems are resolved by installing the latest drivers from Intel, ATI, or NVidia.

DRM has nothing to do with this because none of these applications invoke any of the DRM mechanisms. As is always the case in any OS, if you're not using something, it only takes HD space.

Can you give me something honest here?

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