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Saying that you can get the same is totally missing the point: by default, ubuntu is more usable than debian for average people.
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Right on, ashigabou!
Ubuntu's success is Debian's success. And a huge compliment (and complement) to Debian and the Debian world.
Those who insist upon seeing Ubuntu as as threat, and viewing the interaction as a zero sum game, are holding back the revolution.
I'm 44 years old, and getting a bit set in my ways. But even *I* can see that.
One would think that the 20-something whippersnappers that are the driving force in this community would be a bit more flexible and see the *buntus as an opportunity to drive the Debian family forward and not as a threat.
Those who want a challenge can still get it by installing Debian and customizing to their heart's delight.
Or... if they *really* want to have some down and dirty fun, they can do what I've been doing lately and pick up a Linksys WRT54GL from Amazon or Newegg and have a blast playing with OpenWRT. A bit off-topic, I know. But those little boxes are the most exciting pieces of hardware that I've played with in a long time.




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Exactly. This is the one and only reason why I install ubuntu at work instead of debian, which have been my distribution of choice ever since I've used linux.
They also provide some good polishing for desktop not easily available on debian (which I don't care that much because I know linux well enough to make the changes by myself). Saying that you can get the same is totally missing the point: by default, ubuntu is more usable than debian for average people. I have never seen so many people who would have never tried linux otherwise trying ubuntu now, which is a really good thing.