Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jun 2007 16:04 UTC, submitted by davidiwharper
Linspire Linspire has announced an agreement to license voice-enabled instant messaging, Windows Media 10 codecs, and TrueType font technologies from Microsoft for its Linux distribution. Additionally, Microsoft will offer protection to Linspire customers against possible violations of Microsoft patents by Linux.
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RE: Too Suspicious
by twenex on Thu 14th Jun 2007 17:53 UTC in reply to "Too Suspicious "
twenex
Member since:
2006-04-21

I am curious to ask, why do people not just dump Linux from their computers and go exclusively BSD?

For one thing, it's not time to jump ship quite yet. For another, no BSD can rival Linux in the amount of hardware support. Thirdly,

I mean the BSD license is so open, anything released under it is basically public domain.

The BSD licence is so open that any company that wants to can take BSD code without giving back, and put it in their proprietary product never to be seen again. Not exactly a good business proposition if you want to keep control of your code and stop proprietary splintering a la UNIX - although, I admit, wonderful if you want to steal someone else's.

So why not switch to FreeBSD or OpenBSD for a technically superior system, with software that seems to be legally untouchable because of it's license.

As I understand it, the BSD licence is no less vulnerable to patents than GPL2. Only GPL3 has that virtue.

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RE[2]: Too Suspicious
by elsewhere on Thu 14th Jun 2007 18:21 in reply to "RE: Too Suspicious "
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

As I understand it, the BSD licence is no less vulnerable to patents than GPL2. Only GPL3 has that virtue.


No license will protect you from third-party patent suits; all the GPL3 does is prohibit suits from distributors of GPL software claiming infringment by any user of that software. GPL2 actually had the same protection, though it was implied rather than explicit.

But BSD/GPLx/proprietary etc. are all in the same boat when it comes to patent threats. The problem isn't the licensing, it's the basic patent system itself.

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RE[3]: Too Suspicious
by twenex on Thu 14th Jun 2007 19:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Too Suspicious "
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I stand corrected!

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RE[2]: Too Suspicious
by hyper on Thu 14th Jun 2007 19:53 in reply to "RE: Too Suspicious "
hyper Member since:
2005-06-29

The BSD licence is so open that any company that wants to can take BSD code without giving back, and put it in their proprietary product never to be seen again. Not exactly a good business proposition if you want to keep control of your code and stop proprietary splintering a la UNIX - although, I admit, wonderful if you want to steal someone else's.

But you still have your original code and may do whatever you wish with it and have full control on it.

I guess we are lucky that no one of BSD software developers are so greedy about their code like you are. Or maybe you do not code and just like to spread false claims every time anyone mentions BSD?

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RE[3]: Too Suspicious
by twenex on Thu 14th Jun 2007 20:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Too Suspicious "
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

But you still have your original code and may do whatever you wish with it and have full control on it.

AT&T (or whoever *really* owns UNIX) still has its original UNIX code. NetBSD still has its original BSD code. Did that prevent the splintering of UNIX into AIX, AUX, Solaris, DG-UX, or of BSD into Net-, Free-, Open-, DragonFly-, PC-, Desktop-, Tomorrow-, DayAfter-, and OhNoNotAnotherBSD?

No?

QED.

I guess we are lucky that no one of BSD software developers are so greedy about their code like you are.

Actually, you're unlucky on that point. If it hadn't been for the fundamental splintering of the BSD's, they might have given Linux a run for its money even without being a possible refuge for people scared that Linux will disappear.

Or maybe you do not code and just like to spread false claims every time anyone mentions BSD?

Actually, no. I like to point out that the BSD people, not Linux people, are the *real* idealists. This isn't FUD. It's a fact of life.

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RE[3]: Too Suspicious
by Windows Sucks on Thu 14th Jun 2007 20:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Too Suspicious "
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Yes you will have your own code. But the company (Like Microsoft) who took it will have your code and then add their code and money to make it better and in the end you are just stuck with YOUR code. LOL!

At least with GPL I still have my code and if you use it we will then share code as you are sharing mine and I will be sharing yours. The big companies like MS can't get rich off my code while I have to BUY back the products they make with MY code. LOL!

Notice that BSD has been around a LOT longer then Linux but no one outside the computer world knows what the heck it is. Yet at one time or another there was and is all kinds of BSD code in Windows and other products.

Shoot my mother and grandmother know what Linux is.

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