Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Sep 2007 11:48 UTC, submitted by abdavidson
Opera Software Opera has released an alpha build of their upcoming 9.5 release. "Following the release of Opera 9 last year, we re-wrote Opera's rendering engine for the coming Opera 9.5 release. As a result, Opera 9.5 contains more than a year's worth of speed, standards and performance improvements."
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by butters on Tue 4th Sep 2007 13:16 UTC in reply to "RE"
butters
Member since:
2005-07-08

Many people have been mad at Opera since then even if it's now free of charge and ad-free at the same time. Some ignorants also still think Opera is adware.

There's still the matter of Opera being proprietary software.

Firefox was not only able to build a stronger brand and a larger extention ecosystem, but embedded developers are using the Firefox codebase to build specialized web environments without paying for Opera. If that wasn't enough to contend with, WebKit has enormous momentum behind it now that Apple and KDE are reunited.

That said, Opera 9.5 seems to be somewhere in between Firefox 3 and 4 in terms of core technology. It doesn't have the offline application functionality of FF3 or the high-level scripting support slated for FF4, but the ECMAScript virtual machine is probably more comparable to the latter.

Opera is great technology. But a web platform certainly qualifies as a basic commodity these days, and that doesn't bode well for a proprietary software vendor with a marketshare problem. You have to wonder whether Qt-style dual-licensing is inevitable for Opera.

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by renox on Tue 4th Sep 2007 14:08 in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06

>Opera is great technology. But a web platform certainly qualifies as a basic commodity these days

Depends: average web platforms such as Firefox are a commodity yes, but Opera is much better.

I really wonder how could Firefox spread so much even though unless you use extensions (which few do) it's really inferior to Opera (sluggish).

My only grip with Opera is its UI which has some annoying warts that prevent it to be truly great: for exemple Opera can reflow a webpage so that it fits your window's width which is really nice but you have to do it page per page, there's no way to toggle a switch 'fit width' to have it permanently: a great feature spoiled by a poor UI choice (and that's not the only one).

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by sappyvcv on Tue 4th Sep 2007 14:13 in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06

My only grip with Opera is its UI which has some annoying warts that prevent it to be truly great: for exemple Opera can reflow a webpage so that it fits your window's width which is really nice but you have to do it page per page, there's no way to toggle a switch 'fit width' to have it permanently: a great feature spoiled by a poor UI choice (and that's not the only one).

Tools > Preferences > Web Pages > Check "Fit to Width"

Please do research first.

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by Spellcheck on Tue 4th Sep 2007 14:28 in reply to "RE"
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2007-01-20

You have a gripe. Get a grip.

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by chocobanana on Tue 4th Sep 2007 14:55 in reply to "RE"
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2006-01-04

>> I really wonder how could Firefox spread so much even though unless you use extensions (which few do) it's really inferior to Opera (sluggish).

It also has proper marketing team on it, it's almost like a virtual company that even makes profits! Opera could use the same too...

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by johnnysaucepn on Tue 4th Sep 2007 23:16 in reply to "RE"
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2006-08-22

There's still the matter of Opera being proprietary software.

Firefox was not only able to build a stronger brand and a larger extention ecosystem, but embedded developers are using the Firefox codebase to build specialized web environments without paying for Opera. If that wasn't enough to contend with, WebKit has enormous momentum behind it now that Apple and KDE are reunited.

But none of those matter to the general user. Firefox got momentum because geeks of all stripe and by whatever means pushed it out to friends, and friends of friends, and so on.

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by Joe User on Tue 4th Sep 2007 23:36 in reply to "RE"
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2005-06-29

But none of those matter to the general user.

Agreed. The average joe doesn't know what open-source means. Heck, most people I know think Windows came free when they bought their computer. IE is also "free", LOL.

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