Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2007 21:01 UTC
In the News It does not happen every day that news related to computer technology - news we report on every day - makes its way to the headline news programs and newspapers here in my home country, The Netherlands. So when it does, I am usually on the edge of my seat, simply because it offers an interesting glimpse into how 'normal' people perceive our little world. The last few days, however, that casual interest has made way for something else - tooth gnashing irritation.
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RE[2]: Compatibility you say?
by Eugenia on Tue 11th Sep 2007 00:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Compatibility you say?"
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

Shapeshifter, you talk out of your a$$.

Vegas PRO costs $700, and not $6. I expect it to work because I paid for it and because I am not rich to upgrade all my software and hardware every month.

I NEED compatibility, and I am a consumer, not a "cheap ass company". Same goes for my husband's $1500 printer -- which doesn't work anymore on the new OSX version!!!

As for Linux, it does not bring me compatibility, so it's not what I want. So, stop trying.

Edited 2007-09-11 00:14

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RE[3]: Compatibility you say?
by leech on Tue 11th Sep 2007 01:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Compatibility you say?"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Shapeshifter was correct about the last half of the comment. Vista is unstable and just decides out of the blue to reboot the computer to install updates.

The problem with $700 pieces of software that I always hated severely is that when indeed a new operating system or even some new features come out in a newer version, far too many companies don't offer just a free upgrade. Instead if you're lucky, they'll release an upgrade that costs $100 or more. This is plainly ridiculous!

Besides, people who also say that there aren't that many problems with compatibility, what about all those programs that when you load them up, Vista automatically says that Aero is not compatible with this software, switching to classic mode. It does that to most programs that I tried on it.

Granted Compiz-fusion isn't always compatible with everything, but they are improving it quickly. I even play Doom3 with it turned on and didn't notice any performance loss.

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Ultimatebadass Member since:
2006-01-08

"(...)Vista automatically says that Aero is not compatible with this software, switching to classic mode. It does that to most programs that I tried on it."

Which ones would those be?

From my experience, it only switches off Aero when a program wants to display something using the overlay surface, which is not supported by the hardware accelerated desktop. Personally, I only get that when using DScaler to play my PS2 games. All other software, be it OpenGL based (like Softimage XSI) or video players that support video mixing rendered run absolutely fine.

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RE[3]: Compatibility you say?
by MiliTux on Tue 11th Sep 2007 13:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Compatibility you say?"
MiliTux Member since:
2007-05-16

Shapeshifter, you talk out of your a$$.


The joys of being OSN staff? Can't get your comments moderated down, even when:
this comment includes personal attacks/offensive language


At least Linux users are all polite to a fault :p

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snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

Vegas PRO costs $700, and not $6.

Short answer: Sony.
Long answer: Pro software is for people who have a financial infrastructure that includes upgrading hardware and OSes when compatibility requires it. Prosumers should not enter this arena with a prosumer's checkbook, regardless of platform.

I NEED compatibility, and I am a consumer, not a "cheap ass company". Same goes for my husband's $1500 printer -- which doesn't work anymore on the new OSX version!!!

The only compatibility I lost in Tiger was the PCMCIA slot in my Epson which was a driver unrelated to printing. CUPS should take care of the rest, and Apple now owns CUPS.

Edited 2007-09-11 16:29 UTC

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RE[3]: Compatibility you say?
by segedunum on Tue 11th Sep 2007 18:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Compatibility you say?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I NEED compatibility, and I am a consumer, not a "cheap ass company". Same goes for my husband's $1500 printer -- which doesn't work anymore on the new OSX version!!!

As for Linux, it does not bring me compatibility, so it's not what I want. So, stop trying.


The biggest problem with Vista (and OS X) has been driver compatibility, which has been made even worse with the move to 64-bit machines. How are consumers supposed to know what they're running and that drivers are not written, and the ones that they have are useless?

Shockingly, Linux has no such problems simply because the multitude of drivers in the kernel, and in CUPS and Xorg, just get recompiled. Problem solved.

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abdavidson Member since:
2005-07-06

Just as well we can't vote down administrator comments when you personally abuse someone like that.

Lucky break eh.

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shapeshifter Member since:
2006-09-19

Shapeshifter, you talk out of your a$$.

Vegas PRO costs $700, and not $6. I expect it to work because I paid for it and because I am not rich to upgrade all my software and hardware every month.

I NEED compatibility, and I am a consumer, not a "cheap ass company". Same goes for my husband's $1500 printer -- which doesn't work anymore on the new OSX version!!!

As for Linux, it does not bring me compatibility, so it's not what I want. So, stop trying.


Yes, I understand what you mean.
Like the next reply says, I'm generalizing.
When it comes to speciall purpouse system, like video editing system, you don't usually upgrade the OS untill you upgrade to a new version of the application that is than designed to run on a newer OS.
It's usually a good idea to dedicate a system to a speciall task like video editing.
And in your case it should be a no brainer since you most likely have more than one computer as any pro should have.
So why do you even argue this issue when it does not affect you.
OT, why did you pick Vegas anyway? What's so great about it?
Ever since Sony took over Vega and Soundforge they've been running them into the ground.
Some day you'll be able to do your video editing on a nice Linux box. At least you have something to look forward to ;)

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