Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Sep 2007 21:46 UTC
ReactOS ReactOS 0.3.3 has been released. "The Win32 subsystem is in the beginning of a total overhaul to make it completely compatible with NT5 which may introduce various drops in application compatibility from time to time, however in the 0.3.3 release it has had a positive impact on stability and compatibility with Win32 applications. As a generic result of these internal changes, the system feels a lot more stable in comparison to previous releases, and could be run on a real hardware (though usual limitations still apply - no USB, SATA, NTFS)." The screenshots page has been updated as well.
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Shifting targets
by Almafeta on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:07 UTC
Almafeta
Member since:
2007-02-22

Checking out the ReactOS homepage, I notice no mention of their pirated code "cleanup" which made all the headlines. In addition, they're now trying to "ground-up implementation of a Microsoft Windows XP compatible system." Really? Just like when they were trying to make a 2000- compatible system, or back when their project was still called FreeWin95?

It's a shame. If they were to simply make a good OS on the NT model, and then try to emulate Windows, they might have a chance of making a viable OS. However, by instead trying to chase down every Windows release as it comes out, they're a team of tens trying to reverse-engineer the work of thousands.

RE: Shifting targets
by zizban on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:18 in reply to "Shifting targets"
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2005-07-06

They finished the clean up, thus no mention. Whether their was pirated code is unknown and pure speculation.

NT5 is the code base for 2000, XP and Vista. If you stick to NT5 you'll get a good system.

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RE[2]: Shifting targets
by baadger on Thu 13th Sep 2007 01:30 in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
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2006-08-29

Actually Vista is officially using the NT 6.0 kernel, although rumour has it SP1 will up that to NT 6.1 to come in line with Server 2008.

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RE: Shifting targets
by vege on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:20 in reply to "Shifting targets"
vege Member since:
2006-04-07

That is the challenge.

Anyway, you don't need to be as devoted as they seem to be, but you can let yourself see they are doing a great job to achieve their chosen goal, even if you did not find it interesting.

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RE: Shifting targets
by cyclops on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:21 in reply to "Shifting targets"
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2006-03-12

"It's a shame. If they were to simply make a good OS on the NT model, and then try to emulate Windows, they might have a chance of making a viable OS. However, by instead trying to chase down every Windows release as it comes out, they're a team of tens trying to reverse-engineer the work of thousands."

Its a good job they are building on work done for many years by the Wine team...for years, and I suspect an awful lot of code will be used from other places as well. They already have a lot working.

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RE: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:40 in reply to "Shifting targets"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

You must be blind.

If you take a look at the right column on the front page, you will see a box which says:

ReactOS Auditing

99.5% complete

For further information on the audit status, please visit the related ReactOS-Wiki page.


I even have a screenshot, made just for you ;)
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/1/reactos-frontpage-auditing.p...

There never was pirated code in ReactOS. So far none is found, and there is only 0.5% to go. It is unlikely that the unproven claims would be proved by the last remaining 49 files.

FreeWin95 has little to do with ReactOS except for the wish to recreate Windows API. ReactOS is coming nicely along and has a quite nice compatibility already. They can pull it off. They are not trying to be ahead of Microsoft. They are trying to create an open Windows system for those who don't want to buy expensive hardware to run the newest buggy release from Microsoft.

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RE[2]: Shifting targets
by diegocg on Wed 12th Sep 2007 22:50 in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

They are trying to create an open Windows system


Well, IMO it's stupid to try to create a open windows clone if you just end up running propietary drivers. Not that reactos isn't awesome despite of that....

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RE[2]: Shifting targets
by TaterSalad on Thu 13th Sep 2007 03:09 in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
TaterSalad Member since:
2005-07-06

LOL that screenshot was classic!

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RE[2]: Shifting targets
by sweiss on Thu 13th Sep 2007 07:13 in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
sweiss Member since:
2005-10-01

"...newest buggy release from Microsoft."

Just wait and see how bug-free ReactOS will be when it is finally released, if ever.
I doubt you will be satisfied with its quality.

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RE: Shifting targets
by SReilly on Thu 13th Sep 2007 00:49 in reply to "Shifting targets"
SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

What is it with you and wanting to stir the s**t? Do you really want everybody to ignore your comments or shoot you down the minute you come out with one?

Personally, I think the project rocks. I don't see a problem with somebody trying to recreate a system from scratch.

What's the big deal? You don't like the fact that somebody is trying to create a better OS than MS? That makes no sense.

Surely, if your a fan of MS software, you want MS to give they're best? Don't tell me MS is going to do that without some form of competition?

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RE[2]: Shifting targets
by dylansmrjones on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:41 in reply to "RE: Shifting targets"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Well, if moulinneuf and Oliver can stir the s**t from a GPL and a BSD-POV then Almafeta can stir the s**t from a Windows POV ;)

But I don't grasp why he wants to be in that group...

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RE: Shifting targets
by TBPrince on Thu 13th Sep 2007 08:41 in reply to "Shifting targets"
TBPrince Member since:
2005-07-06

It's a shame. If they were to simply make a good OS on the NT model, and then try to emulate Windows, they might have a chance of making a viable OS. However, by instead trying to chase down every Windows release as it comes out, they're a team of tens trying to reverse-engineer the work of thousands.
Why should they try to make a new OS which has no market and then *try* to emulate Windows instead of making a Windows-compatible OS which instantly gains the biggest software base in the world? Your logic is beyond me.

Thanks to something called "backward compatibility" and something called "stable API", you usually don't need latest Windows to use its software, unless specifically designed for latest version of OS.

Being a generation behind official Windows (like being XP-compatible in the era of Vista) would be a great achievement for ReactOS.

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