Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Sep 2007 20:01 UTC
Mac OS X Just weeks ahead of its public launch, Apple has updated the minimum system requirements for its next-generation Leopard operating system to exclude 800MHz PowerPC-based Macs, AppleInsider has learned. Apple has yet to officially announce the hardware requirements to run Leopard, due out in October, but had long stated in developer documentation that the software would require "an Intel processor or a PowerPC G4 (800MHz or faster) or G5 processor." According to people familiar with the matter, engineers for the company recently determined that Leopard installs on 800MHz PowerPC G4 systems ran "too slow". Support for those systems was subsequently pulled from the most recent pre-release copies of Leopard, which inform testers that the software "cannot be installed" on those computers. My take: Assuming this turns out to be true, there are going to be a lot of unhappy G4 owners - including yours truly.
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RE[2]: :(
by JohnOne on Tue 25th Sep 2007 13:12 UTC in reply to "RE: :("
JohnOne
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2006-03-25

You know very well that I had to disable Flash and Javascript on my 867 Mhz G4 Powerbook because on most pages the OS would stop registering clicks.


I think the problem is you, not the PowerBook. I've an iBook G4@800MHz and NOT a single problem with Flash, Javascript or YouTube.

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RE[3]: :(
by henrikmk on Tue 25th Sep 2007 13:18 in reply to "RE[2]: :("
henrikmk Member since:
2005-07-10

I think the problem is you, not the PowerBook. I've an iBook G4@800MHz and NOT a single problem with Flash, Javascript or YouTube.


That sounds very interesting. How do you manage to get Flash to run properly? I see around 95%-100% CPU usage on playing a Youtube video with lots of stuttering and frameskipping on my Mac Mini G4 1.25 Ghz with 1 GB RAM under OSX Tiger. Fullscreen grinds the machine almost to a halt. I tried it under Safari, Firefox, Camino, Opera and OmniWeb and it doesn't matter.
At the same time, Stage6 videos run smoothly with less CPU usage in fullscreen than Youtube does in the browser window with scaling turned off. I get about the same performance for Google Video. Flash is really unoptimized under OSX.

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RE[3]: :(
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 25th Sep 2007 13:43 in reply to "RE[2]: :("
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I think the problem is you, not the PowerBook. I've an iBook G4@800MHz and NOT a single problem with Flash, Javascript or YouTube.


Flash is a total dog on any system, but more so on PowerPC. My Cube with a G4 at 450Mhz and 2MB of L2 cache should be able to run Flash just fine, but because it is such a unoptimised piece of utter crap (and I'm being mild here) I simply cannot turn Flash on on the Cube. Youtube videos stutter, CPU usage spikes, machine becomes unresponsive.

Remember, this is the same machine that runs Safari, Mail, iTunes, Word 2004, AdiumX, and so on, all at the same time, with only minor slowdown. But Flash renders it completely unusable - even when only Safari is running.

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not Flash per se, but H.264/MPEG-4 AVC is the issue
by frik85 on Tue 25th Sep 2007 14:49 in reply to "RE[3]: :("
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2006-01-26

Video processing, especially MPEG-4 is very CPU time heavy; you need a 1+ GHz CPU for proper performance.
You won't be able to watch recent Quicktime movies (MPEG4) with Apple Quicktime player either.
MacOS X 10.4 (Tiger) had a 2D UI, 10.5 cames (afaik) with 3D UI like Vista.

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