Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Oct 2007 20:50 UTC, submitted by diegocg
KDE "The KDE Community is happy to release the fourth Beta for KDE 4.0. This Beta aimed at further polishing of the KDE codebase and we would love to start receiving feedback from testers. As KDE has largely has been in bugfix mode, this latest Beta aims to encourage testers to have a look at it to help us find and solve the remaining problems and bugs. Besides the stabilization of the codebase, some minor features have been added, including but not limited to much work on Plasma, the KDE 4 desktop shell. Sebastian Kugler notes: 'The improvements have been huge, and plasma is much closer to what it needs to be before the release. I am confident we will be able to finish it and present a very usable plasma to our userbase with KDE 4.0. We will then be able to extend on that and present truly innovative desktop interfaces throughout the KDE 4 lifecycle.'"
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RE[4]: I just don't like it.
by marcusesq on Wed 31st Oct 2007 00:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: I just don't like it."
marcusesq
Member since:
2006-01-18

Personally I like GNOME and so won't be switching, I've allways found KDE to be a messy bloated GUI that was a bit too windowsesque for me but I suppose each to their own...!


KDE's "messy bloated GUI" (as how YOU describe it) is great for getting work done. Gnome has a fantastic interface for non computer people who want to email friends and occasionly surf the web and dont mind opening new applications to do what you can do with a right click in KDE.
Still you can sit back happy and relax knowing that in 10 years gnome will still be looking exactly the same and, if you're really lucky, the devs will have removed even more of that ugly, bloated functionality stuff - just the way you like it!

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RE[5]: I just don't like it.
by pplwong on Wed 31st Oct 2007 18:09 in reply to "RE[4]: I just don't like it."
pplwong Member since:
2007-05-17

Seriously, GNOME's GUI organization is much better than KDE. It's clean and simple compare to the complexity of KDE in terms of menu organization and control panel. KDE menu and control panel is more really a lot more complex than it should. They should really learn from GNOME for that.

That said, I do like KDE 4 better for is more modern UI design. But still, it holds me back from switching because of the messy and more than neccessary complexity for menu and control.

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RE[6]: I just don't like it.
by MamiyaOtaru on Wed 31st Oct 2007 18:53 in reply to "RE[5]: I just don't like it."
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

They should really learn from GNOME

While certainly true in some areas, in the general case: why? So Gnome people will switch? You claim you might but I bet most Gnome people are happy with Gnome. Seriously, my concern is that they are trying too hard to appeal to Gnome users and I don't like it. I use KDE because it isn't Gnome. If it becomes Gnome, why wouldn't I just use Gnome? At least that way I wouldn't have to deal anymore with the odd app that uses a different toolkit(nvidia-settings, eclipse, etc)

I'll be (very pleasantly) surprised if they attract significant numbers of Gnome users, but in what seem like their attempts to do so they alienate at least some (I count as part of "some") KDE users.

I for one am probably stuck with KDE no matter what they do, since at least Konqueror and Dolphin have a directory tree view (personal preferences dictate the presence of one). I'm just not thrilled with the direction I perceive them to be taking, and which you (as a non-KDE user I might add) are advocating.

Example: all that constant harping (not necessarily by you) about all the "ugly" Ksomething application names. Well it's gone to their head, and sensible, descriptive stuff like KHexEdit is being replaced by Okteta. Thanks a lot. One can still see a connection with its function (and it still has a k) but the function is far less obvious. I eagerly await the renaming of kwite to skratchpad ;)

I really can't say it's not for the best in the long run. It may benefit KDE greatly. My concerns have mainly to do with my preferences and likes. That should be obvious, but people sometimes flip out if one doesn't make it clear one is expressing personal opinions ;)

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RE[6]: I just don't like it.
by diegoviola on Wed 31st Oct 2007 23:16 in reply to "RE[5]: I just don't like it."
diegoviola Member since:
2006-08-15

KDE is not complex, it's functional,

and GNOME is too simple that it lacks functionality, GNOME people should learn from KDE.

Edited 2007-10-31 23:23

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RE[6]: I just don't like it.
by melkor on Thu 1st Nov 2007 09:34 in reply to "RE[5]: I just don't like it."
melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

Just remember though: what is one man's shit, is another man's candy.

Dave

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