Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Nov 2007 23:31 UTC
Gnome "The GNOME Foundation has issued a statement in response to recent accusations that it has been supporting the acceptance of Microsoft's Office Open XML format as an ECMA standard at the expense of the Open Document Format, the open standard used by OpenOffice.org, KOffice and other free software office applications. However, whether the statement's attempt at logical rebuttal will do anything to reduce the emotions or altruism behind the criticisms is anybody's guess."
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by Hiev on Sun 25th Nov 2007 21:44 UTC
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

Telling us that it is inevitable is not addressing the issues with it.

Is not my job to highlight why OOXML sucks, I know it does but ODF is not a complete solution eather, but you and others are mixing reality with passion and using it just to prormote an anti MS agenda, And I as a user, even as a developer and sick and tired of all the whining.

You promote free software step by step not with absolutes, all or nothing, black or white. etc.

But you all are trying to mix passion with technical and practical issues, I by my self know how to separe the message from the messenger.

The ideology of "destroy MS long live to Free standar" is to wasted and is proved that is just makes it worse, do it spep by step, the fact that OOXML is now at least in a way open is a win, but looks like people to passional and with and agenda just seek absolutes and gets blinded to the succes of this. I stopped to drink that koolaid long time ago, and believe me, see the thinks in a more objetive ways is way better,

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by boblowski on Sun 25th Nov 2007 22:24 in reply to "..."
boblowski Member since:
2007-07-23

You promote free software step by step not with absolutes, all or nothing, black or white. etc.

I don't think many people here would argue with that.

What they do try to say though, I think, is that by moving the discussion to the "OOXML is a fact we have to live with, let's now discuss how to implement it" point, Microsoft has actually managed to frogleap any questions about the politics and business moral behind OOXML, let alone the consequences for actual businesses and organizations using OOXML. And that would be a bad thing.

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by Hiev on Sun 25th Nov 2007 23:26 in reply to "RE: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

MS has and always will play dirthy, and everytime he does all I see is curses to MS and curse your own luck and never think with a cold head to learn from your own misstakes, and MS will and continue to do the dirthy cheats he does because you all as childs get foolled again.

Don't want to support OOXML? fine don't, and lets see who is the real loser here, the freeworld or MS, but you don't need to much to figure out who is.

You play the game smart, not whining and with "spirit and ideal" speaches because we have had to much of that, people always say those nice speaches that do nothing. If you want to ODF to succes you do it the right and smart way.

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by segedunum on Sun 25th Nov 2007 23:48 in reply to "..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Is not my job to highlight why OOXML sucks, I know it does but ODF is not a complete solution eather, but you and others are mixing reality with passion and using it just to prormote an anti MS agenda...

Blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, anti-Microsoft.

You do realise that with your little bit of Gnome promotion, and your promotion of Microsoft by telling us all helpfully that we're anti-Microsoft, you're perpetuating the very rumour that this article is about in that Gnome is helping Microsoft?

That may not be true, but that's what it looks like.

The ideology of "destroy MS long live to Free standar" is to wasted and is proved that is just makes it worse...

Not particularly interested in Microsoft. All we want is a document format everyone can use. If Microsoft doesn't like that, well, tough.

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by Hiev on Mon 26th Nov 2007 00:09 in reply to "RE: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

bla blah blah Novell sucks. kill Miguel de Icaza.

The same song you repeat.

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