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Mac OS X Since my Cube could not run Leopard, and I did not have any other Macs, I was unable to delve into Leopard right away. Apple NL was kind enough to fix this problem for us, by generously loaning me a brand new MacBook with Leopard installed so I could review it for OSNews. Read on for the findings.
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RE: Stationary
by abraxas on Fri 7th Dec 2007 01:10 UTC in reply to "Stationary"
abraxas
Member since:
2005-07-07

When people tell me HTML email is evil, I always press them to tell me why

I'll tell you why HTML email is evil. The only emails I get that are HTML are either advertisements/spam, email from family members that have too much time on their time, or company emails. Obviously I don't care for advertisements/spam in my inbox and when it comes to family members, their emails would be no different without HTML. It's pretty much useless unless you are a spammer. Companies love to add their graphics to their confirmation emails etc but is it really necessary to chew up bandwith so I can see your logo? I have a better question for you. What benefit does HTML email give ANYONE?

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RE[2]: Stationary
by thebackwash on Fri 7th Dec 2007 01:47 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
thebackwash Member since:
2005-07-06

Aside from those who pay per megabyte, who cares if a little bandwidth is used to send a company's logo?

HTML mail CAN do more than plaintext. Don't be willfully ignorant. You can format what you say, you can add images, and overall make an easier to read document.

Seriously. The Greeks had minimal forms of punctuation, and didn't even put spaces between their words. All of you HTML haters would be that guy saying punctuation is evil and an assault on good taste.

Do you prefer the books you buy to be well formatted, with an easy to read table of contents, and helpful diagrams, or would you rather have a greppable text file with no formatting? There is no uniform right way to do things, and if you could just stretch your concept of things just a little, you'd find that there are a lot of wonderful things you just have to deal with openly as a human being, rather than trying to dominate them, and force them to fit what you already know.

Just because you can't control everything people send you anymore doesn't mean HTML mail is a bad thing, it means you have control issues.

This topic is going down the tubes. And I honestly feel the unreasonable ones are the people who have such a strong irrational hatred of something that could be useful to other people.

I'll go so far, (and this is true, BTW) to say that the technology ratrace makes me unhappy, but that's because I'm an unhappy individual, and what used to be my hobby turned unhealthy after several personal events sent me reeling. But why shouldn't others be able to use something they find useful? If HTML mail makes you unhappy maybe you should find out why.

Edited 2007-12-07 01:47

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RE[3]: Stationary
by abraxas on Fri 7th Dec 2007 04:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Stationary"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

HTML mail CAN do more than plaintext. Don't be willfully ignorant. You can format what you say, you can add images, and overall make an easier to read document.

If you want to send a document why not send an attachment?

Just because you can't control everything people send you anymore doesn't mean HTML mail is a bad thing, it means you have control issues.

This has nothing to do with control. I can block all HTML email messages if I want to. The problem is that it adds absolutely no benefit at all. If you need a structured document there are better options than HTML in an email.

This topic is going down the tubes. And I honestly feel the unreasonable ones are the people who have such a strong irrational hatred of something that could be useful to other people.

I wouldn't say useful but rather over used. How often do you save documents as HTML? I don't see it being the document type of choice for anyone so why try to use it for something it was never designed for when there are better options?

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RE[2]: Stationary
by Adam S on Fri 7th Dec 2007 03:50 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Obviously, you haven't read this thread.

If the *only* HTML emails you receive are ads and spam, then you're not using email professionally.

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RE[3]: Stationary
by abraxas on Fri 7th Dec 2007 04:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Stationary"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

I use email everyday "professionally" whatever that means and when someone sends me a structered document they send it to me as an attachment. I often get excel spreadsheets, word documents, and pdfs as attachments. Otherwise text is plain.

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RE[2]: Stationary
by Soulbender on Fri 7th Dec 2007 05:15 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

What benefit does HTML email give ANYONE?


Formatted text. You know, bold, underline, emphasis, that kind of stuff. Why should you have to attach a different document written in a different program just to format your text?
Btw, what benfit does using the osnews quote tag give ANYONE?

Edited 2007-12-07 05:15

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RE[2]: Stationary
by djst on Sat 8th Dec 2007 11:00 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
djst Member since:
2005-08-07

I have a better question for you. What benefit does HTML email give ANYONE?

* The ability to add emphasis, something we do all the time in e.g. these article comments

* The ability to add simple structure, which is really helpful if you are writing a longer e-mail with some sub headings.

* The ability to use real links instead of using third-party services like tinyurl just because plain text e-mails force you to show the full urls all the time.

* The ability to put an image where it makes the most sense in the context. For example, when comparing things, you can immediately show what you mean instead of writing e.g. "see attachment xyz.jpg."

* The ability to present relevant data in a structured table without a lot of tedious manual ascii formatting work.

* The ability to do all of the above without resorting to an attachment, forcing you to use two separate programs to read an e-mail!

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