Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2008 15:08 UTC, submitted by masalinger
Mono Project A huge 'discussion' took place on the desktop-devel mailing list of the GNOME project about a possible replacement for TomBoy, the Wiki-like note taking application-thing-program-utility written in Mono - it being written in Mono was the prime reason for the whole debate, which started here, and only got considerably nastier later on. "It would seem that lately there are a lot of FUD-spreading trolls crawling out of the woodwork trying to frighten people into thinking that GNOME somehow depends on Mono. Let's take a look at their most widely repeated claims."
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RE: From wikipedia:
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2008 16:42 UTC in reply to "From wikipedia:"
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That last part implies that Microsoft COULD possibly sue people or organizations that use Mono.

Erm, they won't. And there's a very, very simple reason as to why they won't.

You see, everybody infringes upon everybody's patents in the software world. That's just how it is. Apple infringes on thousands of Microsoft patents, Microsoft infringes upon thousands of IBM patents, and so on, and so forth. Companies like Microsoft or Apple do not sue other players on patent infringement, because they know full damn well they themselves are liable too.

It would cause an all-out patent lawsuit suefest that will hurt everyone, and benefit no one. And Microsoft, Apple, and so on realise that pretty darn well. It's a silent, unwritten covenant.

Wordplay there, did you see? ;)

Edited 2008-02-26 16:47 UTC

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RE[2]: From wikipedia:
by monodeldiablo on Tue 26th Feb 2008 16:56 in reply to "RE: From wikipedia:"
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And everybody with half a brain knew that SCO didn't have an snowball's chance in hell of winning... didn't stop them from doing something stupid. Betting on Microsoft to do what's rational makes the fatal assumption that Microsoft's management is rational, and will continue to be in the future. After Balmer's recent bellowing in the press, I'm not convinced that this is a reasonable assumption.

I'm sorry, but the resources expended by the Mono faithful to play perpetual catch-up to Microsoft's superior .NET implementation could have been much better spent augmenting one of the many free and unencumbered VMs out there. ParrotVM comes to mind as needing some love.

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RE[3]: From wikipedia:
by PlatformAgnostic on Tue 26th Feb 2008 20:24 in reply to "RE[2]: From wikipedia:"
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What makes you think that Microsoft's management is irrational?

I'd say that they're pretty solidly in the rational camp. Instead of gaudily spending personal and corporate money (like Ellison of Oracle) or publically and personally deriding the competition in the press (McNealy of Sun), they generally work relatively quietly to make it so that the rational choice is to choose Windows and other Microsoft technologies. Sometimes it's figuring out what the competitors do well and adopting that, and surprisingly often it is noticing what the competitors do poorly and doing the opposite.

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RE[2]: From wikipedia:
by TSDgeos on Tue 26th Feb 2008 21:59 in reply to "RE: From wikipedia:"
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Can you tellme which patents do you hold that Microsoft infringers so that Microsoft fears sueing you?

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RE[3]: From wikipedia:
by KugelKurt on Wed 27th Feb 2008 01:00 in reply to "RE[2]: From wikipedia:"
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It's a cost-benefit calculation. See ACCESS and Zeta: ACCESS said that Zeta was never officially licensed but ACCESS didn't sue because a law suit had costed way more than a victory in court would had given to ACCESS.

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RE[2]: From wikipedia:
by KugelKurt on Wed 27th Feb 2008 01:01 in reply to "RE: From wikipedia:"
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Apple infringes on thousands of Microsoft patents

No, they don't. Apple and MS have a cross-licensing deal, you know.

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