Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Apr 2008 20:14 UTC
"Microsoft will make available the preliminary versions of technical documentation for the protocols built into Microsoft Office 2007, SharePoint Server 2007 and Exchange Server 2007. This documentation, which defines how these high-volume Microsoft products communicate with some of its other products, is 14000 pages and is in addition to the 30000 pages posted when the software giant first introduced its new Interoperability Principles last month. They will be made available April 8."
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So basically what you're saying is that you'll judge the quality of the MS spec based on the technical abilities of the developers who use them in their own products?
How disingenuous of you to intentionally misreprsent what I said. History demonstrates clearly that there are plenty of developers in this world capable of taking a spec, written and presented in good faith, and creating something good and useful from it. That fact is not in question.
It is the "written and presented in good faith" part which I question.
If some of the talented developers, whom we know to exist, are able to run with this and create something of value, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. And that includes giving credit to MS if events prove their current campaign to be genuine. Until then, I am withholding judgement, but remaining skeptical.
Why do you have a problem with that?
Edited 2008-04-09 00:00 UTC
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He didnt "misrepresent" what you said at all. Producing a decent spec does not guarantee someone will write an equal or better implementation. You're basing the quality of the spec on an implementation instead of letting it stand on its own. Hell, before even examining it yourself.
Member since:2005-07-06
How disingenuous of you to intentionally misreprsent what I said. History demonstrates clearly that there are plenty of developers in this world capable of taking a spec, written and presented in good faith, and creating something good and useful from it. That fact is not in question.
It is the "written and presented in good faith" part which I question.
If some of the talented developers, whom we know to exist, are able to run with this and create something of value, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. And that includes giving credit to MS if events prove their current campaign to be genuine. Until then, I am withholding judgement, but remaining skeptical.
Why do you have a problem with that?
It is the "written and presented in good faith" part which I question.
If some of the talented developers, whom we know to exist, are able to run with this and create something of value, I will gladly give credit where credit is due. And that includes giving credit to MS if events prove their current campaign to be genuine. Until then, I am withholding judgement, but remaining skeptical.
Why do you have a problem with that?
I have a problem with you basically assuming that the problem automatically lies with Microsoft. I am not going to get in some sort of OSS vs Closed source pissing match, however all of the MS Office products have 20+ years of coding behind them...why would the spec be anything BUT extremely complicated and verbose? If it took MS 20 years to get these products to where they are today, it stands to reason that duplicating them would be a very difficult, expensive process.
I also hate to burst your bubble, but history actually shows that for every one good developer such as the ones you are alluding to, there are a hundred worthless ones just waiting to screw up their interpretation of a spec. I'd venture as far as to say that maybe 1% of the developers in the world actually have the technical breadth to wade through the MS specs and understand them, much less actually make a working product from them.
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 22:04 UTC
"Google is facing a new antitrust probe by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission into whether the company is using its leadership in the online display-advertising market to illegally curb competition, people familiar with the matter said." Sucks to be Google today, apparently.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 22:01 UTC
"In the midst of the major press blitz surrounding its annual I/O Conference, Google dropped some unfortunate news about its instant messaging plans. In several places around the web, the company is replacing the existing 'Talk' platform with a new one called 'Hangouts' that sharply diminishes support for the open messaging protocol known as XMPP (or sometimes informally Jabber), and also removes the option to disable the archiving of all chat communications. These changes represent a switch from open protocols to proprietary ones, and a clear step backward for many users." That's why I always say: only suckers trust companies.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 17:52 UTC
"The wave of departures is a sign of internal struggle, but amidst all the bad news, there is a glimmer of hope. According to an anonymous HTC executive cited by WSJ, the crucial HTC One is selling 'pretty good so far'. The executive revealed that HTC sold about five million One units since launch, a performance that is deemed encouraging. However, sales have been limited by the persisting supply issues that still plague the production of the HTC One." Finally some good news for HTC. Five million units amidst supply constraints is very impressive.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 22:23 UTC
"Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood. Weâll have to wait and see how this hardware delta gets exposed in games over time, but the gap is definitely there. The funny thing about game consoles is that itâs usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms. On the plus side, the Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4. Even compared to the Xbox 360 we should see improvement in many use cases thanks to modern power management techniques." AnandTech does its usual in-depth thing.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:38 UTC
"The Verge has learned that HTC's Chief Product Officer, Kouji Kodera, left the company last week. Kodera was responsible for HTC's overall product strategy, which makes the departure especially notable on the heels of the global launch of the make-or-break One. It's not just Kodera. In the past three-odd months, HTC has lost a number of employees in rapid succession." I really hope HTC pulls it together.
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 22:06 UTC
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 21:45 UTC
"There's a disconnect between how Apple CEO Tim Cook sees his company's tax strategies and how some members of the US Senate view it. That became clearer than ever today after Cook and two other Apple executives testified before Congress, explaining why they're holding most of their international income in Irish subsidiaries like Apple Operations International, which declare no tax residency anywhere in the world. AOI hasn't filed a tax return anywhere in the world for the last five years, yet it earned $30 billion in income from 2009 to 2012, according to a Senate report released yesterday." Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's just. Apple, Google, Microsoft, and many more - these companies might not be breaking any laws, but it's obvious to anyone that what they are doing is scummy.
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In the mean time, I think we should take up a collection to buy the folks at Microsoft a tanker truck of Pepto-Bismol, because they seem to have developed a nasty case of PDF diarrhea. They should have known better than to try to eat the continent of Europe. ;-)
So basically what you're saying is that you'll judge the quality of the MS spec based on the technical abilities of the developers who use them in their own products? Yeah, that's fair.