Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th May 2008 21:48 UTC, submitted by irbis
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris Yesterday, the OpenSolaris team released OpenSolaris 2008.05, the fruit of Project Indiana. The first review we found was published over at Blogbeebe, which is overall fairly positive. At the same time, Practical Technology believes that "OpenSolaris has finally been released just in time to die".
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RE: Sun is a bit strange
by Matt Giacomini on Wed 7th May 2008 02:47 UTC in reply to "Sun is a bit strange"
Matt Giacomini
Member since:
2005-07-06

People are well aware of the possiblity of vendor lock-ins and OpenSolaris just seems a bit like the first free fix.


What vendor lock in are you refrering to?

I have not seen a modern piece of software that runs on OpenSolaris that can't be compiled for Linux also.

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RE[2]: Sun is a bit strange
by kaiwai on Wed 7th May 2008 03:27 in reply to "RE: Sun is a bit strange"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

"People are well aware of the possiblity of vendor lock-ins and OpenSolaris just seems a bit like the first free fix.


What vendor lock in are you refrering to?

I have not seen a modern piece of software that runs on OpenSolaris that can't be compiled for Linux also.
"

Mate, obviously you seem to have issues finding code or reading sentences. He has said that by OpenSolaris existing it stops vendor lock in. That vendor lock in being software written in the opensource world that only compiles on Linux. Want proof? go grab a generic wine tarball and try to compile it on OpenSolaris out of the box - it won't compile.

Lame, up until decently, same situation - it didn't compile unless you used patches (3.98beta8 works without patching). Code is still being locked into specific operating systems - even when that code is opensource. Programmers using Linuxisms, gcc'isms and any other possible ism I might have forgotten.

As for the value of OpenSolaris, it is nice to do something CPU intensive and not find that it is impossible to surf the internet because the network connection dies. Yes, I've had happen with Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Fedora - its pathetic; are we supposed to believe that in 2008 one shouldn't multitask?

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RE[3]: Sun is a bit strange
by sbergman27 on Wed 7th May 2008 03:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Sun is a bit strange"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Yes, I've had happen with Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Fedora - its pathetic; are we supposed to believe that in 2008 one shouldn't multitask?

I have admined about 80 Fedora, CentOS, and Ubuntu boxes of widely varying harware configs and OS versions for some years now, and I call bullshit on that one. I have never observed such a problem.

I did not bother with the ¨DOA¨ article, and I´ll take your word for it that it was bad. But that is no reason to start gratuitously talking baseless trash about Linux.

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RE[3]: Sun is a bit strange
by gilboa on Wed 7th May 2008 04:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Sun is a bit strange"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

As for the value of OpenSolaris, it is nice to do something CPU intensive and not find that it is impossible to surf the internet because the network connection dies. Yes, I've had happen with Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Fedora - its pathetic; are we supposed to believe that in 2008 one shouldn't multitask?


Umm.... I love blanket statements with no real numbers to back them up.
Currently, the destop that's being used to post this message is running boinc (180% CPU), two vmware virtual machines (one is checking for updates), email client, firefox, large number of VI's and being used as a file and printer server for my wife's desktop.
.... And this is a mid-end Athlon64 5000X2 machine; The dual DC Opteron that sits next to is far more busy.

- Gilboa

Edited 2008-05-07 04:06 UTC

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RE[3]: Sun is a bit strange
by marafaka on Wed 7th May 2008 08:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Sun is a bit strange"
marafaka Member since:
2006-01-03

"As for the value of OpenSolaris, it is nice to do something CPU intensive and not find that it is impossible to surf the internet because the network connection dies."

Maybe you shouldn't run your IE in Wine as root, pal ;)

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RE[3]: Sun is a bit strange
by WereCatf on Wed 7th May 2008 09:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Sun is a bit strange"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

That vendor lock in being software written in the opensource world that only compiles on Linux. Want proof? go grab a generic wine tarball and try to compile it on OpenSolaris out of the box - it won't compile.

Lame, up until decently, same situation - it didn't compile unless you used patches (3.98beta8 works without patching). Code is still being locked into specific operating systems - even when that code is opensource. Programmers using Linuxisms, gcc'isms and any other possible ism I might have forgotten.


Wow, is this a straw man argument or what :O You do realize that it's open code and it just might not compile on a new platform out-of-the-box unless someone has taken the time to test and make it work? And well, talking about wine..it works on SkyOS, Windows, Linux, BSDs...so, what were you saying about vendor lock-in?

As for the value of OpenSolaris, it is nice to do something CPU intensive and not find that it is impossible to surf the internet because the network connection dies. Yes, I've had happen with Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Fedora - its pathetic; are we supposed to believe that in 2008 one shouldn't multitask?

As others have already said, it seems no one believes what you have written here. And neither do I. I'm not saying it's not possible...but heck, I have never come across such issues. And believe me, compiling things like FireFox on a Athlon 1ghz IS CPU intensive yet network connection never died and it was still very much possible to multitask. I don't own a single multicore machine yet multitasking has always worked just fine, no matter if I've had Blender rendering in the background, compiling stuff, backing up the system or anything such.

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