Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th May 2008 17:04 UTC
KDE Tuesday, we reported that the KDE project had released the first beta of KDE 4.1, the release that is supposed to be ready to replace KDE3 on normal users' desktops. The information and marketing speak in the press release sure was promising, so Ars decided to take the KDE 4.1 beta out for a spin.
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RE[2]: try it out again?
by sbergman27 on Fri 30th May 2008 04:40 UTC in reply to "RE: try it out again?"
sbergman27
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2005-07-24

The aim would appear to be eventual control over distribution.
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Hence there is automatically a number of "KDE is rubbish, KDE is ugly" comments posted against every KDE report there is ...

Lemur, sometimes a rose is just a rose. Conspiracy theories just make us look silly and diminish our credibility. Some people like KDE. Some people do not. Some don't care. You can't pigeon-hole those who criticize KDE the way you are trying to do and still retain trust.

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RE[3]: try it out again?
by lemur2 on Fri 30th May 2008 05:05 in reply to "RE[2]: try it out again?"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"The aim would appear to be eventual control over distribution.
...
Hence there is automatically a number of "KDE is rubbish, KDE is ugly" comments posted against every KDE report there is ...

Lemur, sometimes a rose is just a rose. Conspiracy theories just make us look silly and diminish our credibility. Some people like KDE. Some people do not. Some don't care. You can't pigeon-hole those who criticize KDE the way you are trying to do and still retain trust.
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That is your conclusion. That is exactly what I asked you to reach.

As for my conclusion ... there is no doubt that Microsoft are trying desperately to exclude the GPL entirely, and at every mention of interoperation with FOSS software they always talk about "for non-commercial purposes".

E.g. I note that there are a number of vendors almost falling over themselves to try to bring out an EEEPC competitor this month. The "sweet spot" seems to be a 9 or 10 inch screen and utilising an Atom processor. Most of these vendors seem to be offering a choice of Linux or XP.

It all seems fine on the surface, but ...

... the Linux versions offered so far amount to Xandros and SuSe. Hmmmmmmmmm. What is it about those two names ... Xandros and Suse ... aren't these two the exact two sell-out distributions?

Coincidence, you think? You really think?

I note that no vendor yet has offered the same model, same configuration of RAM, Disk, CPU & other bits ... but a choice of Linux or Windows, side by side, same machine, only a different OS ... so that a direct comparison can be made.

No Ubuntu variant is offered, or Debian, or Fedora, or even Mandriva (who incidentally went out of their way to make their distribution work with the EEEPC).

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

The MSI Wind 10-inch is a classic. You can have Suse on a model with a 3-cell battery, or Windows on a model with a 6-cell battery and Bluetooth. No "mix and match" is offered.

I wonder why exactly all this is ... exactly who is afraid of a full Linux desktop being compared with their product on an even-playing-field basis, do you think?

Edited 2008-05-30 05:07 UTC

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