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RE: Paid?
by averycfay on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 05:58 UTC in reply to "Paid?"
averycfay
Member since:
2005-08-29

I doubt it. The osnews staff has repeatedly made clear (with a certain amount of hostility I might add) that:

1.) They don't want to pay people for contributions. Apparently the editors aren't even being paid.
2.) They don't want to release any financial information.

Personally, I find it somewhat astounding that a for profit company is soliciting donations at all. If osnews was an NPO, I'd have no problem with it, but they aren't. Where's the money going? Would I be spending time writing articles to fund someone's big screen tv? (my guess is that I wouldn't, but without any financial information how can I be sure?)

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RE[2]: Paid?
by Kroc on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 06:17 in reply to "RE: Paid?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

If your cynicism is that deeply embedded, then don't. Don't comment on this article, don't even use the site. If anything you've already proven that you wouldn't make a good editor with an attitude like that.

There are plenty of others who don't see this as a matter of money, and see it as an opportunity for greater things like furthering their skills and bringing joy to readers who are genuinely interested in the art of computing.

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RE[3]: Paid?
by Adam S on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 13:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Paid?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

I don't know why you got modded down. It seems like a perfectly reasonable response to me. Much like open source, we contribute articles here.

The profit of the site is intended to cover bandwidth, network administration (backups, DNS, etc), hardware and servers, and administrative stuff. OSNews is certainly not the first site to do so and most definitely won't be the last.

Anyone who has ever written a post on IMDB or Netfix, written a book review for Slashdot, etc, has contributed to someone else's profit too, but I don't hear the whining there.

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RE[2]: Paid?
by sbergman27 on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 06:55 in reply to "RE: Paid?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I doubt it. The osnews staff has repeatedly made clear (with a certain amount of hostility I might add) that:

1.) They don't want to pay people for contributions. Apparently the editors aren't even being paid.
2.) They don't want to release any financial information.
...
Would I be spending time writing articles to fund someone's big screen tv?...

Make sure it's plasma and not LCD or Eugenia will moan for days on end. ;-)

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RE[2]: Paid?
by Ben Jao Ming on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 08:34 in reply to "RE: Paid?"
Ben Jao Ming Member since:
2005-07-26

Personally, I find it somewhat astounding that a for profit company is soliciting donations at all. If osnews was an NPO, I'd have no problem with it, but they aren't. Where's the money going? Would I be spending time writing articles to fund someone's big screen tv?


What money!? The money from the ads!? Everyone in here uses adblock extensions. They can't possibly earn money. Having nonprofit writers is much better - in that way OSNews can keep on being free and independent.

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RE[3]: Paid?
by netean on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 12:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Paid?"
netean Member since:
2006-01-08

I dunno. I have Adblock plus installed but I never ever use it...

somehow I just manage to totally ignore pretty much any ad.. I don't think I've ever knowingly clicked on one!

I have clients who run very small, very niche sites who make a pretty decent amount of money from ad revenue - i.e. several 1000s a month.. these are low volume, very niche sites too... But hey, we're all geeks here, so maybe we just don't click ads as much as other gullible people do?

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RE[2]: Paid?
by joshv on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 12:55 in reply to "RE: Paid?"
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

Editors? What editors? I've given up asking Eugenia to get somebody to proofread her English.

As for a for profit company taking donations - who cares? The only difference if they were a NPO would be that you could get a tax deduction for your donation - meh.

If you like what they are doing and want to support it - donate. If not, don't. There is nothing magical about a non-profit that makes it any more financially responsible or accountable.

I doubt it. The osnews staff has repeatedly made clear (with a certain amount of hostility I might add) that:

1.) They don't want to pay people for contributions. Apparently the editors aren't even being paid.
2.) They don't want to release any financial information.

Personally, I find it somewhat astounding that a for profit company is soliciting donations at all. If osnews was an NPO, I'd have no problem with it, but they aren't. Where's the money going? Would I be spending time writing articles to fund someone's big screen tv? (my guess is that I wouldn't, but without any financial information how can I be sure?)

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RE[2]: Paid?
by rhyder on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 17:39 in reply to "RE: Paid?"
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

This is an area of debate amongst freelance writers -- should people do unpaid work?

I see both sides of the argument. People working for free decreases the demand for paid work. I have no doubt that some publishers would start paying for work or pay more than they already do if the pool of unpaid workers were smaller. This is particularly true in the music press, for example.

On the other hand, most professions have a concept of internship. I had seven articles published on OS News before I started going after paid writing work. I was happy to do the work and I feel that I benefited from it. Getting my work in front of an audience and receiving feedback for it was a valuable part of the learning experience.

Apart from anything else, you need a portfolio of published work to make reference to in order to go after other work.

As long as you are getting something out of it -- such as building your profile as a writer, or developing your skill set -- unpaid work has its place, in my opinion. Naturally, the people who get to read your stuff are getting something out of the situation too.

As with most things, I think that a good balance needs to be found.

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RE[2]: Paid?
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 2nd Jun 2008 17:43 in reply to "RE: Paid?"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Would I be spending time writing articles to fund someone's big screen tv? (my guess is that I wouldn't, but without any financial information how can I be sure?)


You're right! ZOMG OH NOES! Now that you mention it, I've never seen any documentation proving that OSNews staff don't regularly dump babies into woodchippers. Not that there's a single shred of evidence that they do - but I'm completely justified in assuming it (since they haven't explicitly stated otherwise).

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