Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Jun 2008 20:28 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Back in May 2006, Sun announced during the JavaOne conference it would release Java as open source, licensed as GPL software. While it was released as GPL, it still contained about 5 percent proprietary, non-free code - the Java trap, as the FSF calls it. The FSF called to dismantle this trap, and now the IcedTea project has reached an important milestone.
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RE[5]: The Java Trap
by binarycrusader on Fri 20th Jun 2008 13:16
in reply to "RE[4]: The Java Trap"
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""It was not impossible. Many distributions did so. "
Many is nothing compared to all distribution ... "
Not when you're only counting distributions that matter.
""It was also not impossible to debug and track bugs since the source code was available"
In certain case , in others it was the problem. "
Splitting hairs.
""I think you're way too disconnected from the process."
I know your not part of the process. Your even against the process. Your also disconnected from reality. "
Sorry, but your statements go against publicly available evidence to the contrary. Thus, I will have to disagree.
By being 100% GPL , it means JAVA will be used natively as opposed to a plug-in or an after tought.
It could be 100% bsd, and it will still have that chance. The license does not matter.
Member since:2005-07-06
Not when you're only counting distributions that matter.
No , no , no , no , Many is nothing compared to all distribution. There is not one distribution that matter more then the other in GNU/Linux ... BTW since it's GPL other OS will be able to use it too ...
Splitting hairs.
No , it's called reality ... Sure java existed and Sun supported some platform on GNU/Linux but it was incomplete.
[/q]"Sorry, but your statements go against publicly available evidence to the contrary. Thus, I will have to disagree. " [/q]
I guess I missed those non existent public evidence ...
Feel free to show them , meaning give a link to them , because the existence of the complete 100% GPL solution show you as being wrong from every angle you have discussed so far ...
"It could be 100% bsd,"
Nope as there is no 100% BSD , I will say "yet" with the hope that one will appear but with BSD I have long seen reality and moved on , because there is no real demand or fund or community behind it. Otherwise someone would have jumped on-board or asked for it when the real job was being done ... Sun was created by BSD people and yet they made sure there license kept the BSD out ... Even the GNU/Linux developer dual license a lot of there software/driver to BSD.
" The license does not matter."
Then you don't have a problem with it being GPL then , well that's not really the truth or reality as seen by your rant and whining so far.
License do matter for realist and pragmatist.
That's why GNU/Linux is commercially supported as opposed to everything else and as commercial company worth billions and millions with recognized projects...
Pragmatic get the job done ... 100% GPL , done.
BSD , well I am sure the parade of the "me too" beggar is about to start it's worldwide tour soon ... They will go on a political farce saying how BSD is as important as GNU/Linux is ... I wonder where those people where all along when the project where discussed and started and the code got created ...
You do know that the GPL is compatible with BSD , but that BSD refuse to include the code for "political" reasons ...
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2005-07-06
Many is nothing compared to all distribution ...
In certain case , in others it was the problem.
I know your not part of the process. Your even against the process. Your also disconnected from reality.
By being 100% GPL , it means JAVA will be used natively as opposed to a plug-in or an after tought.
Edited 2008-06-20 05:44 UTC