Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Jul 2008 20:39 UTC, submitted by vege
KDE Earlier this year, the KDE team released the highly-anticipated 4th major revision of the KDE desktop. Instead of bringing evolutionary changes, KDE 4.0 effectively delivered a complete rewrite of KDE, and as a consequence the first release of the KDE 4 branch lacked a lot of features of KDE 3.x, while also being quite unstable and rough. Many even complained the KDE team shouldn't have released KDE 4.0 as 4.0, but rather as a developer preview release or something similar. During this storm of criticism, the KDE team calmly pointed out that KDE 4.1 would fix many, many of the issues people had with KDE 4.0. Starting today, there's no more pointing towards KDE 4.1: KDE 4.1 has been released today.
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Fonts
by sappyvcv on Wed 30th Jul 2008 15:21 UTC
sappyvcv
Member since:
2005-07-06

Can they PLEASE hire a freaking font expert. The fonts still look like ass. Nevermind that the rendering sucks, because I know some people like it. But the choice of fonts is terrible and most of them look out of place. They didn't even get the sizes right either.

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RE: Fonts
by boudewijn on Wed 30th Jul 2008 16:10 in reply to "Fonts"
boudewijn Member since:
2006-03-05

No, Sappyvcv, we cannot hire a freaking font expert. Mainly because KDE, as a project of volunteers, does not hire anyone.

If you happen to be a freaking font expert, you're of course very welcome to start your copy of fontforge and create an excellent font. In the meantime, console yourself with the knowledge that everyone on the Linux desktop uses the same fonts and the same font rendering technology.

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v RE[2]: Fonts
by sappyvcv on Wed 30th Jul 2008 21:09 in reply to "RE: Fonts"
RE: Fonts
by truckweb on Wed 30th Jul 2008 16:42 in reply to "Fonts"
truckweb Member since:
2005-07-06

Browse most website using Windows or Mac OSX and the presentation is the same, font size and look are similar.

Go to the same site using Linux and you're faced with font that don't match, size that are (most of the time) too small.

I'm no Font expert, but it's a HUGE problem with Linux and one that put me off of using it.

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RE[2]: Fonts
by raver31 on Wed 30th Jul 2008 18:38 in reply to "RE: Fonts"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

Why ? the fonts are fully interchangeable.
In fact most distros have a MSfonts package that has all the standard Windows fonts, so it can look EXACTLY the same under Linux.

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RE[2]: Fonts
by lemur2 on Wed 30th Jul 2008 23:36 in reply to "RE: Fonts"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Browse most website using Windows or Mac OSX and the presentation is the same, font size and look are similar. Go to the same site using Linux and you're faced with font that don't match, size that are (most of the time) too small. I'm no Font expert, but it's a HUGE problem with Linux and one that put me off of using it.


Liberation fonts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts

Install them from your distribution's repository (search in your package manager for the keyword "liberation"), and once installed, set firefox to use these fonts as the default serif and san serif fonts.

The other thing you must check is your monitor's resolution setting in "dpi". Check it by typing "dpyinfo". If it is not correct, xorg configuration has erred, so you should force it to a reasonable value. For many monitors, 96 dpi is the correct setting. You can set this in both KDE and GNOME from GUI configuration applets.

Once you have done these things then website fonts render just fine.

Not a HUGE problem at all. In fact, it has been well and truly solved for quite some time now.

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RE: Fonts
by segedunum on Thu 31st Jul 2008 21:48 in reply to "Fonts"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Can they PLEASE hire a freaking font expert. The fonts still look like ass.

Unfortunately KDE has no responsibility whatsoever for fonts. That is a much wider Linux system and distribution question.

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RE[2]: Fonts
by sappyvcv on Thu 31st Jul 2008 23:48 in reply to "RE: Fonts"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

You mean KDE doesn't choose which font faces and sizes they use? Wow, how odd.

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