Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Mon 4th Aug 2008 14:35 UTC, submitted by Hakime
Graphics, User Interfaces "The best open source applications and operating systems are more usable now than they were then. But this is largely from slow incremental improvements, and low-level competition between projects and distributors. Major problems with the design process itself remain largely unfixed." Personal Note: I am not sure how many people feel that Free Software has poor usability. As far as the desktop environment, I find most of linux window managers to be the more user-friendly than Windows and OS X.
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RE[3]: Sad, but true...
by tryfan on Mon 4th Aug 2008 17:44 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Sad, but true..."
tryfan
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2006-12-16

Yet I could pick up Photoshop 5.5 (probably even newer versions) and without reading through a manual, find the few things I want to do and do them.

Brilliant! Now, do it with MS Paint! You couldn't? Well,I guess you've got to bite the sour apple and try Gimp, then?

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RE[4]: Sad, but true...
by TemporalBeing on Mon 4th Aug 2008 18:39 in reply to "RE[3]: Sad, but true..."
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2007-08-22

"Yet I could pick up Photoshop 5.5 (probably even newer versions) and without reading through a manual, find the few things I want to do and do them.

Brilliant! Now, do it with MS Paint! You couldn't? Well,I guess you've got to bite the sour apple and try Gimp, then?
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Actually, most of what I would use GIMP for I can easily accomplish in MS Paint. I'm not a graphic artist; I'm just doing some very simple things - like cropping a picture. (Of course, on Windows I typically will use Irfanview to do a lot of things, and MS Paint to do the rest.)

I still haven't been able to figure out how to do such a simple task as crop a picture in GIMP. (And, yes - people have given the instructions. But I never have those around when I actually go to use GIMP b/c I'm not reading the thread they responded to when I do use GIMP.)

Programs should not make people feel stupid when they can't accomplish even the most basic tasks. GIMP can easily do that.

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RE[5]: Sad, but true...
by abraxas on Mon 4th Aug 2008 22:35 in reply to "RE[4]: Sad, but true..."
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2005-07-07

Actually, most of what I would use GIMP for I can easily accomplish in MS Paint. I'm not a graphic artist; I'm just doing some very simple things - like cropping a picture. (Of course, on Windows I typically will use Irfanview to do a lot of things, and MS Paint to do the rest.)

I still haven't been able to figure out how to do such a simple task as crop a picture in GIMP. (And, yes - people have given the instructions. But I never have those around when I actually go to use GIMP b/c I'm not reading the thread they responded to when I do use GIMP.)

Programs should not make people feel stupid when they can't accomplish even the most basic tasks. GIMP can easily do that.


I don't want to be rude but you have bigger problems if you cannot figure out how to crop a picture in the GIMP. It isn't difficult at all. Use the rectangle tool to select a region then just select "Image->Crop to Selection" from the menu. It is similar to how you do it in MS Paint only there are fewer steps.

Edited 2008-08-04 22:49 UTC

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