Linked by Anil Gulecha on Thu 11th Sep 2008 16:15 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu OSNews has been reporting on the Debian/Ubuntu/GNU/Opensolaris hybrid for several years. But for those of you who've never looked more closely at this interesting OS, a Nexenta developer has laid out some of its more noteworthy features and advantages.
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RE: All well and good...
by BluenoseJake on Thu 11th Sep 2008 18:42 UTC in reply to "All well and good..."
BluenoseJake
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2005-08-11

apt-get is a Debian feature, not a solaris feature. The 18000 apps that come with it are not a Solaris feature either.

It mentions the GNU userspace, that makes it easy for Linux users to jump over to the Solaris kernel.

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RE[2]: All well and good...
by klimg on Thu 11th Sep 2008 23:03 in reply to "RE: All well and good..."
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2007-08-03

If it would work - last time I tried things blew up pretty soon.

You'll still need to learn the Solaris tools to take advantage of the solaris specific advantages.

Another interesting project in that area is portage-prefix trying to implement Gentoo's portage with Solaris.

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RE[2]: All well and good...
by unoengborg on Fri 12th Sep 2008 06:08 in reply to "RE: All well and good..."
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2005-07-06

apt-get is a Debian feature, not a solaris feature. The 18000 apps that come with it are not a Solaris feature either.


After using, or rather trying to use, Nexenta I sort of doubt the 18000 apps figure, are you sure that is not for Ubuntu? Anyway, it doesn't matter if they have 18000 apps, you only need a handful or so of important ones to bi missing to make life miserable.

For me the deal breaker was Java. Sun java won't install. I suppose you could try to port openjdk but a lot of the dependencies are just not there yet, so that would be a major project.

Most of the tools for administrationg it is Solaris oriented. E.g. SMF for starting and stopping services, ldapclient to set up LDAP,... I would think the only thing an Ubuntu user would find familliar is apt-get, exept that there are a lot fewer apps to get. Apart from apg-get Nexenta feels like Solaris and have very little in common with Ubunto from the adminster point of view.

The main advantage over standard Solaris of Nexenta is that it boots from ZFS, but so does OpenSolaris from Sun. OpenSolaris have a lot more complete set of libs (and important to me, Java). My guess is that it is much easier even for a Linux person to start out with that instead of Nexenta and then port whatever GNU he nees you need than going with Nexenta.

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RE[3]: All well and good...
by BluenoseJake on Fri 12th Sep 2008 09:50 in reply to "RE[2]: All well and good..."
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2005-08-11
RE[3]: All well and good...
by BluenoseJake on Fri 12th Sep 2008 14:49 in reply to "RE[2]: All well and good..."
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

That's the point, you don't have to port GNU stuff to Nexenta, because it is already using the GNU userland.

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RE[3]: All well and good...
by BluenoseJake on Fri 12th Sep 2008 21:20 in reply to "RE[2]: All well and good..."
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

uh, the article states, and I quote:

"Nexenta uses Debian's dpkg packaging system, and provides everything provided by Debian/Ubuntu environment"

According to Nexenta's wiki, it can use ubuntu's repos directly:

http://www.nexenta.org/os/BuildingPackages

But I guess there is a four step process to port them, so I guess you do have to port them, but it looks extremely easy.

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