Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Sep 2008 18:46 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
It's been nearly 18 months since the last major Xfce release - Xfce 4.4, to be exact. Xfce 4.6 was supposed to go final this month, but the Xfce team didn't meet the deadline. Instead, they released the first alpha release of Xfce 4.6, and Phoronix summarises the most important changes, including a number of screenshots.
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RE[6]: Comment by diego
by BluenoseJake on Tue 16th Sep 2008 12:59
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"Resource hog is a general statement. E.g. VMWare will hog all your machine's resources if you run a number of heavy VMs. But the mere fact that it's hogging all the resources doesn't make it a bad product by itself."
No, you're right, it doesn't make it a bad product. Just like if someone believes a product is bloated does not mean it it's a bad product. Lie I said, one man's bloated is another man's feature packed app is another mans resource heavy.
I also think resource heavy == bloated in the public's mind, and in a lot of geeks minds. I don't find Vista bloated, I find it runs great on a dual core box with 2G of ram. You find that it is bloated. It's all about perception.
RE[7]: Comment by diego (Huge OT)
by gilboa on Tue 16th Sep 2008 14:11
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No, you're right, it doesn't make it a bad product. Just like if someone believes a product is bloated does not mean it it's a bad product. Lie I said, one man's bloated is another man's feature packed app is another mans resource heavy.
I also think resource heavy == bloated in the public's mind, and in a lot of geeks minds. I don't find Vista bloated, I find it runs great on a dual core box with 2G of ram. You find that it is bloated. It's all about perception.
I also think resource heavy == bloated in the public's mind, and in a lot of geeks minds. I don't find Vista bloated, I find it runs great on a dual core box with 2G of ram. You find that it is bloated. It's all about perception.
True.
But again - if you look at the (?) translation:
Bloated == a lot of useless features that hinder performance. (Perception)
Resource hog == Uses a lot of resources. (Measurable assessment)
Calling Vista bloated is, as you said, a matter of personal opinion that's tied to what-ever OS you use as reference.
Calling VMWare a resource hog is a matter of observation. (E.g. my VM host is currently bust chewing ~500%/800X CPU time and ~5GB of memory...)
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Actually, IMHO resource hog != bloated.
Resource hog is a general statement. E.g. VMWare will hog all your machine's resources if you run a number of heavy VMs. But the mere fact that it's hogging all the resources doesn't make it a bad product by itself.
[Beware: Even if you don't agree, PLEASE don't turn this into an pro/anti Vista thread. Thank you.]
On the other hand (in my experience) Vista is bloated.
As in, it was relatively slow on the dual dual Opteron machine that I tested it on (compared to 2K3 and Linux), without offering something in return.
[/Beware]
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