Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Sun 21st Sep 2008 06:46 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Linux Greg KH, Linux kernel developer delivered a keynote in the Linux plumbing conference about the health of the ecosystem. His message was essentially that distributions that don't contribute to the ecosystem have to rely on the whims of others which is unhealthy for them. Here is an introduction the development model and some interesting statistics about the Linux kernel code. Update by TH: Rebuttals are appearing all over the web, like this one by Canonical's Matt Zimmerman ("He's refuting a claim which has, quite simply, never been made. [...] When this sort of thing happens on mailing lists, it's called trolling."), or this one by another Canonical employee, Dustin Kirkland.
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Keep your bugs
by sakeniwefu on Mon 22nd Sep 2008 04:31 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: This is why I wont use Ubuntu"
sakeniwefu
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2008-02-26

Bug reports are broken for Linux if we have to report to the appropriate package. What if, as is often the case, a program only fails when it is used with another program, window manager, hardware driver, etc?
For a project, tracking a few major distros bug tracking system for problems related to their own software isn't very hard. For users or the distros to specially report the bugs to individual projects, it is.

This rant is basically Enterprise Linux vs Desktop Linux. Red-Hat and friends contribute a lot of code, yes. What you all forget to mention is that it is code THEY and their corporate friends need. It adds 0 value to Linux as a Desktop OS. Ubuntu could run just as well on kFreeBSD(if the Debian port was still alive) or Minix. Shuttleworth chose Linux because hardware manufacturers are more likely to contribute drivers to it because of the license and the pressure from the Enterprise Linux world.

Edited 2008-09-22 04:33 UTC

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RE: Keep your bugs
by robgarth on Mon 22nd Sep 2008 04:51 in reply to "Keep your bugs"
robgarth Member since:
2006-04-30

No it's not. It's more than that. I want Ubuntu to be a better citizen because it represents the user. With no code contributions, not just to the system, but also to places like gnome, it is the enterprise calling the shots.

Other than the occasional rant where Shuttleworth tells the community where it is wrong, nothing is going upstream and Ubuntu have very little control on where packages are heading. If Ubuntu really want to make linux the user os I hope it will be, then invest in some programmers who work on the upstream packages they want to use.

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RE: Keep your bugs
by Rahul on Mon 22nd Sep 2008 07:46 in reply to "Keep your bugs"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

"This rant is basically Enterprise Linux vs Desktop Linux. Red-Hat and friends contribute a lot of code, yes. What you all forget to mention is that it is code THEY and their corporate friends need. It adds 0 value to Linux as a Desktop OS"

Red Hat leads the development of GTK, HAL, DBus, NetworkManager, PulseAudio, PolicyKit and dozens of other desktop components without which desktop linux of today would not exist

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions

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RE: Keep your bugs
by dagw on Mon 22nd Sep 2008 10:08 in reply to "Keep your bugs"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

This rant is basically Enterprise Linux vs Desktop Linux. Red-Hat and friends contribute a lot of code, yes. What you all forget to mention is that it is code THEY and their corporate friends need. It adds 0 value to Linux as a Desktop OS.

I would seriously recommend you look up which projects Red-Hat has contributed to, since you're statement is very far from the truth.

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