Linked by David Adams on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:44 UTC, submitted by snydeq
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin has said it is time for Solaris to simply move out of the way and yield the future to Linux. 'The future is Linux and Microsoft Windows. It is not Unix or Solaris,' he claims, contending that Sun's strength in long-lifecycle apps is giving way to Linux, as evidenced by the rise of Web apps, where Linux holds a decided advantage, Zemlin claims. With capabilities such as ZFS and DTrace, Sun is trying to compete based on minor features, he says. 'That's literally like noticing the view from a third-story building as it burns to the ground.'
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Windows Sucks
Member since:
2005-11-10

"Unix has been dead since Google started to use Linux and almost all super computers started to using Linux"

Ridiculous reasoning!

Google is but one company, however you want to measure it there is no denying that Unix systems have great market penetration in the things they have been targeted at. The financial services industry is almost solely using Solaris or AIX for their heavy lifting. Telco's are heavy users of Solaris as are the oil industry and military.

On the web-tier LAMP is king, but keep in mind that Sun's new CMT boxes running Solaris have changed the price/performance ratio in this market.


Are you kidding me??

Last time I looked:

New York stock exchange:LINUX
Chicago Mercantile Exchange: Linux
HSBC:LINUX
New Zealand's TSB Bank:LINUX
Korean Air:LINUX
FAA:LINUX
US POSTAL SERVICE:LINUX
US ARMY: Lots of Linux http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/27/us_army_going_to_linux/

I could go on an on. But that is a small snap shot of companies that crunch large numbers using Linux. HSBC alone having 125 Million customers.

Way more companies are moving to Linux then moving off Linux. If you look at company figures Suns sales are stagnate while Novell and Red Hat are growing.

Solaris can not out run Linux on x86!

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

But that is a small snap shot of companies that crunch large numbers using Linux. HSBC alone having 125 Million customers.

Crunching numbers is but a small part of what these companies do. I'd very surprised indeed if HSBC was a pure Linux shop without some serious Solaris or AIX and mainframe hardware in the background shuffling important data.

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atriq Member since:
2007-10-18

While it's not a stretch to assume that they all have some sort of ibm or sun datacenter (although Dell and HP should also be thrown in that list), the conviction they are running aix or solaris for the "serious stuff" is ill-founded, considering both offer Linux at least for every server model I looked through.

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mdoverkil Member since:
2005-09-30

Yeah and NONE of those companies are running exclusively Linux. I bet if you went to each of those companies respective job listings you will find jobs regarding a myriad of other operating systems


Oh and I've actually been in the CME data centers, they have quite a bit of SPARC hardware. Most companies in the finance industry or any large company for that matter do not run on a single operating system.

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Yeah and NONE of those companies are running exclusively Linux. I bet if you went to each of those companies respective job listings you will find jobs regarding a myriad of other operating systems


Oh and I've actually been in the CME data centers, they have quite a bit of SPARC hardware. Most companies in the finance industry or any large company for that matter do not run on a single operating system.


True almost no company runs just one OS. The companies I listed are companies that changed enough of their operations to Linux that there were major news stories about it.

Its not news when a company moves a few servers to Linux. It is a news story when there is a major move of some part of important operations to Linux.

Also my key point was that Linux is growing fast in places where people claim Solaris is entrenched.

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