Linked by David Adams on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:44 UTC, submitted by snydeq
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin has said it is time for Solaris to simply move out of the way and yield the future to Linux. 'The future is Linux and Microsoft Windows. It is not Unix or Solaris,' he claims, contending that Sun's strength in long-lifecycle apps is giving way to Linux, as evidenced by the rise of Web apps, where Linux holds a decided advantage, Zemlin claims. With capabilities such as ZFS and DTrace, Sun is trying to compete based on minor features, he says. 'That's literally like noticing the view from a third-story building as it burns to the ground.'
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Tell that to the companies
by riha on Fri 26th Sep 2008 20:15 UTC
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That relies on software and OS:es that can give you 100% binary compatibility.

For the linux platform an simple kernel or package upgrade might render your applications useless.

Solaris is way better for servers than linux is, that is MY opinion.

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RE: Tell that to the companies
by sbergman27 on Fri 26th Sep 2008 20:46 in reply to "Tell that to the companies"
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For the linux platform an simple kernel or package upgrade might render your applications useless.

We've already covered this.

But before I address that, I would like to address (again) something that is more important.

Jim Zemlin of the Linux Foundation has made some undiplomatic and poorly considered remarks which call his judgment into question. If you read here, and also more Linux specific sites like, you will see that most of us in the Linux community refuse to condone his gratuitous attacks. Some of us are emailing the Linux Foundation to express our displeasure.

Please decline to participate in or encourage any rock throwing war within our POSIX-like OS community. It's counterproductive, a waste of time, and plays into the hands of... mumble-mumble.

Now. That said... the Linux kernel's user space ABI is sacred and has been all the way back to the early 90's. All the moaning we hear about the *internal* ABI changing often confuses people into thinking otherwise. Furthermore, it has been a *very* long time since I have had a problem involving glibc versions, which would be the next most important case. (The last time I had such a problem, the company providing the app and updates had been ignoring a *loud* glibc deprecation warning for 5 years!) And if you have a proprietary app that *does* depend on old libraries, you still don't really have a problem since the enterprise distros allow you to stick with the same major version for *at least* 7 years. And then often provide "-compat" packages to get you by for another 7 years.

But if Solaris does an even better job of providing backward compatibility, that's fine with me, and is likely both a strength and a weakness.

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