Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Nov 2008 21:45 UTC, submitted by lemur2
KDE The KDE team has released the first beta of KDE 4.2, slated for release coming January. Quite a lot of new features have been added, as well as lots of bug fixes and performance improvements. This release also makes a lot of strides to feature parity with KDE 3.x, by adding those small little features that KDE 3.x users are barely aware of, but which were missed in KDE 4.0/4.1, such as taskbar grouping, multiple rows in the taskbar, panel auto-hiding, a traditional icon desktop through 'full-screen' foderview, and so on.
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RE[4]: Comment by moleskine
by moleskine on Fri 28th Nov 2008 16:59 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by moleskine"
moleskine
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2005-11-05

About the first line on that link states:

"PowerDevil is part of kdebase from 4.2 on"

We are not yet at the point of an official release of KDE 4.2. Nor, clearly, do all distros yet have PowerDevil. Saying that PowerDevil is out in part and on some platforms is a long way from saying it is fully available, out of beta and generally reliable, and has been since July. I'd suggest, on the contrary, that this won't really apply till 2009 and until then this aspect of KDE 4's functionality has a question mark over it and in some case it is absent. If you want to play around with definitions or show that you're so leet with an 11.1, that's fine by me. But it really alters nothing. Most users are not beta-testers or devs and, besides, most don't run SuSE anyway. They'll use what their distro comes with, or doesn't.

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RE[5]: Comment by moleskine
by Morty on Fri 28th Nov 2008 19:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by moleskine"
Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

About the first line on that link states:

"PowerDevil is part of kdebase from 4.2 on"

We are not yet at the point of an official release of KDE 4.2. Nor, clearly, do all distros yet have PowerDevil. Saying that PowerDevil is out in part and on some platforms is a long way from saying it is fully available, out of beta and generally reliable, and has been since July.


And you clearly failed to grasp what the parent said, that PowerDevil is out and released in full. That the stable application will get bundled with the next KDE release does not change the fact that it has been avaliable since July.

That some distributions fail to include it are plainly a distribution issue, like all other software they fail to include.

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RE[5]: Comment by moleskine
by Soulbender on Fri 28th Nov 2008 19:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by moleskine"
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2005-08-18

So how exactly is it KDE's fault that some distros do not include any of the available power management solutions that DO exist for KDE4?

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RE[6]: Comment by moleskine
by moleskine on Sat 29th Nov 2008 00:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by moleskine"
moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

It isn't KDE's fault and no one has claimed it is. But if we could leave aside the religious maniacs who always turn up whenever KDE and Gnome are mentioned on OSNews, the original point is that the hitherto absent "small little features" claimed in the summary are in fact quite large features in some eyes, including mine. It's the use of the airbrush that bugged me. A photoshopping of reality.

Nor am I inclined to fall for the baloney that because Power Devil has been available to some people, in some state, therefore it was been available, finished and stable generally. It has not been, period, and insofar as it's been available at all, it's equally clear that on some distros this has only happened very recently.

As for the distro I use, when I last updated, about two weeks ago, there was no power control stuff for KDE4 which actually worked, at least on my PC, and there never has been. For that reason, I don't currently use KDE4. I'm a user of KDE normally, and this really shouldn't turn into another case of KDE windbags being unable to handle the remotest suggestion that all is not perfect in the garden of earthly delights that is their particular DE. Except that on OSNews, it so often does of course. Nothing more to say, so here endeth my tale.

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