Linked by David Adams on Wed 17th Dec 2008 17:15 UTC, submitted by Michael
In the News In a muckraking Spiegel.de article, suppliers to well-known computer manufacturers are accused of mistreating workers and violating Chinese labor law: "According to a Hong-Kong based human rights organization, working hours total up to 370 hours per month, workers aren't receiving the legal minimum wage and in the run-up to Christmas, days off are cut out entirely." One of the reasons that high tech hardware has become so widespread and useful is because it's so inexpensive. As this article demonstrates, this affordability can come at a price.
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RE: shit happens
by red_devel on Wed 17th Dec 2008 17:46 UTC in reply to "shit happens"
red_devel
Member since:
2006-03-30

Whatever lets you sleep at night buddy, but the only way they can get away with it is because we buy this stuff! In the West, we have built up a lifestyle that we enjoy, and we have done it based on prices that are only possible because the stuff is being made by people being mistreated, under payed, and living very poorly in comparison. 20% of the world's population owns 80% of the world's resources. Somewhere on the order of 30,000 people starve to death every day. There is enough food in the world for everyone to eat over 2600 calories a day.

The only reason people starve is because we let them. Because we let borders and petty conflicts and our own selfish desire to live well supersede the well being of our brothers and sisters around the world. And when someone writes an article like this that makes us uncomfortable, we tell ourselves crap like that: "Oh, its more complicated than that, see." Yeah, because we make it. There is no justice in the world. And everyone in the West, living well and bitching about a "bad economy" is guilty, the first person on that list being me.

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RE[2]: shit happens
by evangs on Wed 17th Dec 2008 18:14 in reply to "RE: shit happens"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

Somewhere on the order of 30,000 people starve to death every day.


And they come from countries where the tyranical dictator who runs the local scene lives in lavish style. But whatever right? It's always the fault of the West. They are either too interventionist or not interventionist enough -.-

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RE[3]: shit happens
by Soulbender on Wed 17th Dec 2008 18:23 in reply to "RE[2]: shit happens"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

And they come from countries where the tyranical dictator who runs the local scene lives in lavish style.


Dude, we're not talking about the U.S.A.

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RE[3]: shit happens
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 17th Dec 2008 18:32 in reply to "RE[2]: shit happens"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Not always dictator related. Although that is a common element. Sometimes a country is just poor, had no natural resources or industries, poor soil, and is hit by a drought or some other natural disaster.

Don't let blame get in the way of doing the right thing, unless you want the world to look like New Orleans post Katrina.

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RE[3]: shit happens
by wanderingk88 on Wed 17th Dec 2008 19:39 in reply to "RE[2]: shit happens"
wanderingk88 Member since:
2008-06-26

And most of times it's the US backing such dictators.

Go read a book on history.

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RE[2]: shit happens
by christianhgross on Thu 18th Dec 2008 21:44 in reply to "RE: shit happens"
christianhgross Member since:
2005-11-15

Did you happen to read the article?

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Chan argues that the long working hours violate Chinese law. In addition to the normal 40-hour workweek, Chinese law stipulates that a maximum of 36 hours of overtime can be worked each month. She claims that, in many cases, workers at Excelsior have to work up to 174 hours of overtime. During rush periods, especially before the European Christmas shopping season, days off are cut out entirely. Employees at Excelsior must then work seven days a week, the study claims.
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These computer makers are violating the law! Excuse me, but this is not a problem of the West. This is a Chinese problem because Chinese law has clearly said "hey this is not right."

Actually my bigger question is how come the spiegel is talking about this in this context! They should be showing these violations to the government and getting the government to act.

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RE[2]: shit happens
by melkor on Sat 20th Dec 2008 08:16 in reply to "RE: shit happens"
melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

You are, of course, correct. Unfortunately, man is greedy and money is more important that people. I find it amazing that slavery in the US is outlawed, by US companies are the biggest abusers of slave wages & conditions outside of the US.

Dave

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