Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Jan 2009 17:46 UTC, submitted by Richard
Windows Let's combine the two most popular topics on the internet today into one: Windows 7 on netbooks. Microsoft has already confirmed that it will ship a version of Windows 7 designed for netbooks, the popular small laptops that appear to be the only bright spot in an otherwise abysmal PC industry climate. However, with various reports indicating that Windows 7 already runs fine on netbooks, this raises the question: what exactly is Microsoft planning?
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More edition bloat
by mallard on Mon 26th Jan 2009 18:09 UTC
mallard
Member since:
2006-01-06

Here we go, another "edition" of Windows, when Vista already has too many.

Seriously. Apple has the right idea, 1 desktop, 1 server. IMHO Windows probably has good reason to have a "corporate" edition as well, but now (assuming all Vista edition are kept) Windows 7 will have:

*Starter
*Home basic
*Home premium
*Business
*Netbook
*Ultimate

That's 6 editions, just for the client! Utterly ridiculous.

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RE: More edition bloat
by AdamR01 on Mon 26th Jan 2009 18:32 in reply to "More edition bloat"
AdamR01 Member since:
2005-09-14

Make it 7 versions of 7. Don't forget about Vista Enterprise.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by raver31 on Tue 27th Jan 2009 09:57 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

So, which one exactly is the "seventh son of the seventh son" ?

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RE: More edition bloat
by phoenix on Mon 26th Jan 2009 18:38 in reply to "More edition bloat"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Here we go, another "edition" of Windows, when Vista already has too many.

Seriously. Apple has the right idea, 1 desktop, 1 server. IMHO Windows probably has good reason to have a "corporate" edition as well, but now (assuming all Vista edition are kept) Windows 7 will have:

*Starter
*Home basic
*Home premium
*Business
*Netbook
*Ultimate

That's 6 editions, just for the client! Utterly ridiculous.


Windows really only needs three editions of the client OS:

* Home
* Corporate
* Ultimate

Home would have simplified networking and file sharing with homegroup, wouldn't have AD or domain networking, and possibly media centre features.

Corporate wouldn't have homegroup, would have advanced networking and filesharing, domain/AD support, policies, wouldn't have media centre, and so on.

Ultimate would combine the two.

During the install, it should check if it's a desktop, laptop, netbook, and configure default settings accordingly. Things like power management policies, disk access policies, 3D accel, and so on.

Of course, that would be just too logical for MS. They seem to be getting further and further away from KISS.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by _txf_ on Mon 26th Jan 2009 21:38 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Anyone who buys the Ultimate edition deserves to be shot for their stupidity. The first time around it is (maybe) forgivable that they fell for microsofts bull****.

The fact that microsoft is going to pull the same trick twice makes me really angry and hopes nobody buys it, so microsoft will learn. I hope for the best, but I very much expect the worst

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by Alleister on Mon 26th Jan 2009 21:56 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

IMHO more than two Client Versions is already too much.

If there would be an Corporate version that wouldn't work with home groups that would be an disaster. Just imagine all those business Laptops that are almost useless for working at home.

Having two versions is already an nuisance. Vistas versioning scheme was one of the reasons i switched to Mac. I could never manage to remember what Version would come with exactly what features and ultimately would have required the Ultimate version which costs more than an second hand MacMini/new Office PC in europe 330€ (=420$) and yes, i'm aware of the OEM versions which come at slightly less ridiculous prices, but those get bound to the Mainboard you install them on first time and i don't spend 200€ on throwaway licenses.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by mallard on Tue 27th Jan 2009 10:50 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
mallard Member since:
2006-01-06

I totally agree. Additionally, I don't think there should be any licensing distinction between 64-bit and 32-bit versions. I should be able to just buy a e.g. Windows 7 Ultimate Edition and install whichever word-length works best on my hardware.

Additionally, I should be allowed to switch word-length at will (e.g. If I was only using 32-bit because my printer wasn't compatible, I should be allowed to go 64-bit when I upgrade my printer. Or if I discover that the 64-bit drivers for my graphics card are unstable, I should be allowed to go 32-bit while I wait for improvement.)

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RE: More edition bloat
by Darkelve on Tue 27th Jan 2009 07:40 in reply to "More edition bloat"
Darkelve Member since:
2006-02-06

Well what makes you think they're going to keep all those versions. I'd think they would've learned something from the Vista adventure by now...

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RE: More edition bloat
by google_ninja on Tue 27th Jan 2009 13:05 in reply to "More edition bloat"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

I don't see why people care about this. All 99% of people have to care about is the difference between home basic and home premium, and that can be explained in under 20 seconds.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by mallard on Tue 27th Jan 2009 22:24 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
mallard Member since:
2006-01-06

I don't see why people care about this. All 99% of people have to care about is the difference between home basic and home premium, and that can be explained in under 20 seconds.


You mean "Fancy graphics and Media Center"?

Anyway, that's not the point. "Home Basic" has no real reason to exist beyond "Windows Vista from $99". The only PCs that ship with it are super-budget models.

That 99% of people should not even have to care about the difference between "Home Basic" and "Home Premium". They should just get "Home" (which would be roughly equivalent to "Home Premium").

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