Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Jan 2009 17:46 UTC, submitted by Richard
Windows Let's combine the two most popular topics on the internet today into one: Windows 7 on netbooks. Microsoft has already confirmed that it will ship a version of Windows 7 designed for netbooks, the popular small laptops that appear to be the only bright spot in an otherwise abysmal PC industry climate. However, with various reports indicating that Windows 7 already runs fine on netbooks, this raises the question: what exactly is Microsoft planning?
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RE: More edition bloat
by phoenix on Mon 26th Jan 2009 18:38 UTC in reply to "More edition bloat"
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

Here we go, another "edition" of Windows, when Vista already has too many.

Seriously. Apple has the right idea, 1 desktop, 1 server. IMHO Windows probably has good reason to have a "corporate" edition as well, but now (assuming all Vista edition are kept) Windows 7 will have:

*Starter
*Home basic
*Home premium
*Business
*Netbook
*Ultimate

That's 6 editions, just for the client! Utterly ridiculous.


Windows really only needs three editions of the client OS:

* Home
* Corporate
* Ultimate

Home would have simplified networking and file sharing with homegroup, wouldn't have AD or domain networking, and possibly media centre features.

Corporate wouldn't have homegroup, would have advanced networking and filesharing, domain/AD support, policies, wouldn't have media centre, and so on.

Ultimate would combine the two.

During the install, it should check if it's a desktop, laptop, netbook, and configure default settings accordingly. Things like power management policies, disk access policies, 3D accel, and so on.

Of course, that would be just too logical for MS. They seem to be getting further and further away from KISS.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by _txf_ on Mon 26th Jan 2009 21:38 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Anyone who buys the Ultimate edition deserves to be shot for their stupidity. The first time around it is (maybe) forgivable that they fell for microsofts bull****.

The fact that microsoft is going to pull the same trick twice makes me really angry and hopes nobody buys it, so microsoft will learn. I hope for the best, but I very much expect the worst

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RE[3]: More edition bloat
by poundsmack on Mon 26th Jan 2009 21:46 in reply to "RE[2]: More edition bloat"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

from a marketing perspective having an "ultimate" version of ANY product is good. statisctics prove that... well, people are stupid and if teh name SOUNDS better people will often go for it. it happens all the time, i get users who wan to upgrade to the new version or _____________ (insert any app here) because it is either new, or because it sounds impressive by the name (this has no relivency to if they infact need it or if it would fit their needs).

example: ChrisComputing's custome fire wall (a rebranded version of Comodo's fire wall) was avalible on the site, it was downloaded only 21 times. The link on the site was later renamed to Chris Computing Security Firewall+ . It was downloaded 312 times, in a week.
Moral of the story: market hyping names to sell a product works, people fall for it, its just that simple.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by Alleister on Mon 26th Jan 2009 21:56 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

IMHO more than two Client Versions is already too much.

If there would be an Corporate version that wouldn't work with home groups that would be an disaster. Just imagine all those business Laptops that are almost useless for working at home.

Having two versions is already an nuisance. Vistas versioning scheme was one of the reasons i switched to Mac. I could never manage to remember what Version would come with exactly what features and ultimately would have required the Ultimate version which costs more than an second hand MacMini/new Office PC in europe 330€ (=420$) and yes, i'm aware of the OEM versions which come at slightly less ridiculous prices, but those get bound to the Mainboard you install them on first time and i don't spend 200€ on throwaway licenses.

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RE[2]: More edition bloat
by mallard on Tue 27th Jan 2009 10:50 in reply to "RE: More edition bloat"
mallard Member since:
2006-01-06

I totally agree. Additionally, I don't think there should be any licensing distinction between 64-bit and 32-bit versions. I should be able to just buy a e.g. Windows 7 Ultimate Edition and install whichever word-length works best on my hardware.

Additionally, I should be allowed to switch word-length at will (e.g. If I was only using 32-bit because my printer wasn't compatible, I should be allowed to go 64-bit when I upgrade my printer. Or if I discover that the 64-bit drivers for my graphics card are unstable, I should be allowed to go 32-bit while I wait for improvement.)

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