Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Feb 2009 18:31 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Back when it was becoming clear that the time of the BeOS had come and gone, enthusiasts immediately set up the OpenBeOS project, an attempt to recreate the Be operating system from scratch, using a MIT-like license. The project faced difficult odds, and numerous times progress seemed quite slow. Still, persistence pays off, and the first alpha release is drawing ever closer. We decided to take a look at where Haiku currently stands.
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kragil
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2006-01-04

I think the best option for projects like this is to focus on virtualbox which now even has 3D.

In the long run just on on top of Linux+X+OpenGL+Virtualbox.

That way you just have all the advancements in linux drivers for free and only have to care for the virtual hardware.
A native install could provide the same setup.

It would be very similar to Amithlon in a way.

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

I think the best option for projects like this is to focus on virtualbox which now even has 3D.


I don't understand these types of suggestions - someone recently suggested the same in the SkyOS forums.

IMO, that's a sure way to demote an up-and-coming OS to permanent-hobby status. It will never make it out of the virtual machine.

Virtual machines are great for people who want to run other operating systems for compatibility reasons, but I don't see the advantage of using them for OSes designed for daily desktop usage like Haiku. Citing that it "solves" the hardware support problem is just ignoring the actual problem.

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kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Well, I wish all open source OS would support every piece of hardware there is.

But at the moment nearly all of them don't have the manpower to do that. And for some of them that day will probably never come.

You have to face reality. If the performance hit from building Haiku ontop of a very minimal Linux system (like Amithlon) is not noticeable and nearly everything "just works"(tm) then it might be worth looking at.

Or you can remain in pre-alpha (for real hardware) for a another 10 years.

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mabhatter Member since:
2005-07-17

I think it should absolutely be focused on virtual machines.... VMWare player, Xen, etc. Using a VM makes it EASY for people to try out without being bogged in hardware hell. I know I'm tired of fidgeting with hardware settings just to try something out. VMs are to the point they're going mainstream. If you make your OS something that runs well in VM then you will get lots of users to start making apps and USING it. Hardware support will come when enough people are available to use it.

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yahya Member since:
2007-03-29

I think the best option for projects like this is to focus on virtualbox which now even has 3D.

In the long run just on on top of Linux+X+OpenGL+Virtualbox.


This somehow defies the purpose of an operating system, moreso of one which is known to be extraordinarily slim and fast. If you have to first boot Linux to boot Haiku, the whole exercise becomes somewhat pointless, especially if you consider that the host operation offers a much broader choice of applications than the guest. All that Haiku in VirtualBox would offer you this "it looks like BeOS" experience. But as soon as your curiosity has been satisfied, you will most likely return to your GNOME/KDE/Windows/XFCE/[Other desktop of choice] and continue with your serious work there.

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