Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Feb 2009 14:06 UTC
Legal In a textbook example of "dweilen met de kraan open", the landmark trial against Torrent website The Pirate Bay will take off today in Sweden. The founders of the torrent website are charged with aiding millions of internet users gain access to illegal content. Basically the entire entertainment industry is amassing against The Pirate Bay, making this one of the biggest trials against internet file sharing in history.
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RE[2]: Never let go
by Ford Prefect on Mon 16th Feb 2009 17:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Never let go"
Ford Prefect
Member since:
2006-01-16

I think you make a good point there. Legislation cannot solve this issue, but on the other hand there really is an issue to be solved.

The only ones who have the possibility in their hands are the producers of the media. Instead of trying to slow this development down with technical (DRM) and legal (lobbying for new laws), they should finally face it.

Which means, offer an alternative.

1. People are not dumb and they realize that if they pay $15 for a CD, the artists never ever get more than $1 from that sale. If I could buy the CD for $5 on the internet in my preferred format, and the artist would get $2.5 from that, it would already be a win-win.

2. If I want to watch a movie tonight I can download it using Google, Torrent software and 3 clicks in about an hour, if popular even in only 30 minutes. I don't have to move my ass one inch for that. There is no competitive commercial (legal) alternative to that as of yet.


They have to *learn* from this instead of just fighting it. I still buy CDs and rent DVDs, but honestly, if you have to put extra work just to pay for it and then fight with limitations.... You could argue it makes more sense to use filesharing and make a donation afterwards...

Edited 2009-02-16 17:36 UTC

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RE[3]: Never let go
by ephracis on Mon 16th Feb 2009 18:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Never let go"
ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Which is exactly why I mentioned Spotify. It is an application, containing a library of thousands of songs (it's really huge). You can either listen to all music for free with commercial breaks every now and then, or pay a monthly fee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotify

I believe that is is a really good alternative to piracy and it seems that a lot of people agree with me, it's a bug success. It's still far from perfect (for example I use my playstation to play music so I can't use it, besides it only runs on Linux via wine). But if the service would expand to include movies and series, and run on mp3 players and mobile phones I think it would really take off.

Apart from Spotify I think that the days of the old record companies are gone. There is no need for a middle-man anymore. The money should instead go straight to the creator of the media.

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RE[4]: Never let go
by jimbofluffy on Mon 16th Feb 2009 18:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Never let go"
jimbofluffy Member since:
2008-07-15

Which is exactly why I mentioned Spotify.


I would so use that, but it is a no go in the US. I rather not have to download and keep gigabytes of media myself, so I like the Hulu/Joost alternatives imperfect as they are. I guess I will keep using Pandora for music.

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RE[4]: Never let go
by Mellin on Mon 16th Feb 2009 20:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Never let go"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

the recording company's are trying to kill spotify
they demand country restrictions

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RE[4]: Never let go
by abstraction on Mon 16th Feb 2009 23:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Never let go"
abstraction Member since:
2008-11-27

Ive used Spotify and I like it a lot. I actually have no problem with having to listen to a commercials now and then as long as it doesnt happen too often which it doesnt atm. Why Spotify works is because it is a better alternative than actually downloading songs because it is so easy to use and almost all music ive searched for is there. The only thing im shocked about is now when there is a good working prototype that makes everyone happy: Why are the record companies still f*cking up by not adding certain artist and ban some music in certain countries?

On a more technical note - there should be a interface free version like some sort of a music streaming server that doesnt require the client to have a specific platform. It would for instance be sooo cool to be able to mount Spotifys music library on your own computer =)

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