Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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RE[4]: Will OpenSolaris survive?
by segedunum on Fri 20th Mar 2009 01:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Will OpenSolaris survive?"
segedunum
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Hate to break it to you but Linux is still not as scalable as Solaris or AIX.

Hate to break it to you, but I'm afraid wheeling out the word 'scale' with nothing to back it up proves very, very little I'm afraid. Linux runs and scales from small ARM NAS systems to things with over 500 processors in them. I also hate to break it to you that Sun has been trying to jump up and down saying this for over ten years - and they're the ones trying to get bought out ;-).

AIX is around for historical reasons, little more, and no amount of unquantifiable questions over Linux's scalability will change that. There's little new code flowing into AIX, that's for sure. It's all going one way.

When all else fails, play the scalability card. After all, it's worked really well for Sun! :-)

It's also not quite as rock-solid in a fileserver/domain controller role as Netware was. It was very hard to kill Netware 3.12 or Netware 4.

What? Seriously, what planet did you drop in from? Linux and the software around it is used in umpteen file and print installations and Novell and Netware is getting its lunch eaten and has been for years. That's why Novell have tried, unsuccessfully, to move their business to being Linux based. They simply haven't got it.

All of these operating systems also have something Linux doesn't. A stable API/ABI that doesn't change every kernel revision. Of course most Linux fanbois call that a feature.

No one cares. It's Linux that has been eating Solaris's (the one with the stable ABI) lunch and that's why we have ended up with this article with Sun looking for a buy out. Goodness me. We're still too proud to the last to admit the truth.

I love open source OS's and software, don't get me wrong, but my love is for the one true original open source UNIX. BSD.

I'm happy for you and the five people who will end up running it. BSD just hasn't attracted the investment needed in terms of lines of code and its relative popularity where it has had it (within OS X et al) has not contributed anything back to the well-being of any of the BSDs. Not code, not investment not anything.

GNU/Linux is NOT a magic bullet to the world's problems and is chock full of plenty of flaws just like any other platform.

So what? An awful lot more people use it than BSD and it's been eating Solaris's lunch for ten years, so what does that tell you?

Sun has plenty of brilliant technologies, some of them are even in Solaris. DTrace, zones, ZFS, etc.

Yep. They're so brilliant that they've pushed Sun into getting bought out.

Just because you can poach that product's users with your free buggy implementation doesn't make your product better.

I'm just wondering how such a sore and bitter post from someone who can't accept the reality of the current situation got modded up.

Show me some REAL functionality that has appeared out of a vacuum in Linux? If you say GNOME I'll slap you.

Why not? It's now the default desktop in Solaris :-).

Where's the killer features GNU/Linux has that no other free UNIX or commercial UNIX has?

Easy software installation for one, availability and support for a wide range of open source software packages, availability on commodity hardware like x86 and wide range of others that Sun and other Unix vendors absolutely steadfastly refused to do. They nailed their own coffins.

Developers, application support and availability won out. They're the only killer features that matter otherwise Sun wouldn't want to be signing on the dotted line.

It's unfortunate that SPARC hasn't caught on seeing as how it's an open platform...

It hasn't caught on because it's slow. Plain and simple. Has been for over ten years when compared with a commodity system based on x86. The raw horsepower just isn't there. That's why Sun and SGI's workstation and chip design business died overnight, especially when Linux could run on x86 where others couldn't and simply refused to.

Just because Sun can't dump $4,000,000,000,000 into polishing a slow horrible turd of a CPU architecture.....

Then Sun's chip business isn't viable. It's that simple.

This is just denial I'm afraid, and it comes off as a bit sad. Sun are the ones looking to sign themselves away here. No gloss can be put on that.

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