Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th Apr 2009 09:54 UTC
Bugs & Viruses Whenever the Conficker worm comes up here on OSNews (or any other site for that matter) there are always a number of people who point their fingers towards Redmond, stating that it's their fault Conifcker got out. While Microsoft has had some pretty lax responses to security threats in the past, it handled the whole Conficker thing perfectly, releasing a patch even before Conficker existed, and pushing it through Windows Update. In any case, this made me wonder about Linux distributions and security. What if a big security hole pops up in a Linux distribution - who will the Redmond-finger-pointing people hold responsible?
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Gun rights
by Novan_Leon on Wed 15th Apr 2009 19:39 UTC
Novan_Leon
Member since:
2005-12-07

shevegen, the problem with European style government is that they assume the general populace is incompetent and unable to make sound decisions on their own. Just because a gun manufacturer advertises a product is no logical reason to place responsibility on them for the way customers use their products. People are not ignorant zombies who can't control their ability to choose what they buy and how they use it. People are fully able to make decisions on their own, whether they agree with you or not is a different matter.

Besides, gun rights are about keeping power in the hands of the people rather than limiting power to government and law enforcement. After all, a well-armed populace is the best defense against tyranny.

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RE: Gun rights
by Yamin on Wed 15th Apr 2009 20:47 in reply to "Gun rights"
Yamin Member since:
2006-01-10

The problem with both of you and now me is you're discussing gun rights ;)

In any case, you're both wrong about Europe. Some European countries have very high percentages of gun ownership. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to check out gun ownership rates in Finland and Switzerland.

Gun control is not the issue. Like drugs, guns cannot be controlled. The underground economy and gangs can easily get guns. Heck, making a gun is not that hard. I mean, if the Palestinians can make rockets under the guise of Israel... you think you can prevent people from making guns?

People are the problem. The reason the Swiss can own all the guns they want and not have rampant gun crime is because Swiss people are not crazy violent nuts ;) The problem with American gun crime is not the guns, but the vast numbers of people willing to kill and murder.

*disclaimer... I'm from South Africa... one of the most violent places. Attempts at gun control are futile. Like in the US, the problem is not guns, but the people who so willingly use them.
*another disclaimer... poverty is not the cause of violent crime. Been to india/china/other parts of asia. There is rampant poverty, but don't worry, you're pretty safe from nut job violent crime.

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RE[2]: Gun rights
by k1773r37f on Fri 17th Apr 2009 19:13 in reply to "RE: Gun rights"
k1773r37f Member since:
2009-04-17

Switzerland is a very interesting paradox. It is at the same time, one of the most socialist and one of the most free societies in the world.

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RE: Gun rights
by spiderman on Thu 16th Apr 2009 05:27 in reply to "Gun rights"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Europe is different. There is another culture, different geographics, and different history. In the netherlands you can smoke pot but you can't have a gun like in the US. The place is overcrowded and has been a central place in WW2. I see people from the US telling the europeans what to do and people from Europe telling the americans what to do. If I were from the netherlands I would tell you that you should build see walls in the US. Telling people in other countries what they should do is so pointless and stupid that that makes me laugh.

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