Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th May 2009 19:17 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Ask OSNews is apparently quite popular among you guys; the questions just keep on coming in. Since David took on the first two, we decided to let me handle this one - it's an area I've personally covered before on OSNews: file system layouts. One of our readers, a Linux veteran, studied the GoboLinux effort to introduce a new filesystem layout, and wondered: "Why not adopt the more sensible file system from GoboLinux as the new LSB standard?"
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RE[3]: Down with the FHS
by asmoore82 on Sat 30th May 2009 03:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Down with the FHS"
asmoore82
Member since:
2009-03-11

The problem is that it's not really 30 years of accumulated wisdom. It's simply wisdom from 30 years ago. And it provides solutions to problems that aren't applicable to a modern desktop.

It's actually 40 YEARS OF ACCUMULATED WISDOM.
I can purge my system of locally compiled software by
simply deleting /usr/local whilst simultaneously causing
no damage whatsoever to the packaged software.

Your statement is pure, concentrated ignorance.

On Windows, if you think for one second that you can rid
yourself of all traces of software by using "Add/Remove"
AND/OR deleting its folder in "Program Files,"
that is just more fantastic ignorance.


This type of thinking is endemic to Linux development.

You may be right - it's those darn developers -
they should immediately start thinking like
lawyers, prostitutes and/or carpenters!
On second thought, wouldn't computing be better off if
we just eliminated those pesky developers altogether?


That's why every Linux desktop still runs a graphics stack that favors network transparency over hardware acceleration.

All of my Linux systems have both.
And I actually use both on a daily basis.
I have and enjoy the best of both worlds, so what's the big problem?

Please, what is so broken that needs fixing?

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RE[4]: Down with the FHS
by cb_osn on Sat 30th May 2009 04:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Down with the FHS"
cb_osn Member since:
2006-02-26

It's actually 40 YEARS OF ACCUMULATED WISDOM.

I'm going to go ahead and assume that ACCUMULATED WISDOM is not the same thing as accumulated wisdom, since you put in the effort to mash the shift key long enough to differentiate them.

I can purge my system of locally compiled software by
simply deleting /usr/local whilst simultaneously causing
no damage whatsoever to the packaged software.

Yes! Everyone I know has just been dying to locally compile a huge collection of software and then purge it all in one fell swoop. Thanks.

Your statement is pure, concentrated ignorance.

I heard that the expulsion of "pure, concentrated ignorance" is a symptom of swine flu.


On Windows, if you think for one second that you can rid
yourself of all traces of software by using "Add/Remove"
AND/OR deleting its folder in "Program Files,"
that is just more fantastic ignorance.

I searched and searched, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out what you are referring to in my post. I'm fairly certain I didn't mention Windows at all. Perhaps, through the miracle of the internet, you have contracted my swine flu and are expelling some pure, concentrated stuff of your own.


You may be right - it's those darn developers -
they should immediately start thinking like
lawyers, prostitutes and/or carpenters!
On second thought, wouldn't computing be better off if
we just eliminated those pesky developers altogether?

Prostitutes? What?

All of my Linux systems have both.
And I actually use both on a daily basis.
I have and enjoy the best of both worlds, so what's the big problem?

This is an example of the problem: http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
It is absolute madness and is the direct result of trying to shoehorn a modern graphics system into an architecture that was in no way designed to support it.


Please, what is so broken that needs fixing?

According to some fraction of the 1% of desktop Linux users, everything is hunky dory. With numbers like that, it must be perfect.

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RE[5]: Down with the FHS
by AdamW on Sat 30th May 2009 05:18 in reply to "RE[4]: Down with the FHS"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

"This is an example of the problem: http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/
It is absolute madness and is the direct result of trying to shoehorn a modern graphics system into an architecture that was in no way designed to support it."

It's not that at all. You're just...entirely wrong. The whole point of the process at the moment is that various frameworks within X.org are being updated and improved - all within the same system that's worked well for a couple of decades. I'd say that's pretty good engineering.

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RE[5]: Down with the FHS
by asmoore82 on Sat 30th May 2009 06:25 in reply to "RE[4]: Down with the FHS"
asmoore82 Member since:
2009-03-11

According to some fraction of the 1% of desktop Linux users, everything is hunky dory. With numbers like that, it must be perfect.

Market Share Trolling - That's Nice!!
Ahh, statistics pulled right out of the arse -
always the last refuge of logical fallacy.

http://digg.com/linux_unix/GNU_Linux_Desktop_Market_Share_is_4_Gart...
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-140314.html
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Anyway, back to the grown-up discussion:
I fully enjoy the use of hardware accelerated graphics
AND network transparency every, single day -
all on a filesystem that is *gasp* FHS-based.

What is broken here that needs fixing?

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