Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

Hmm... Man used to mean "human being" but at some point turned into a gender-specific term.

In old days werman meant "male human" and wyfman (or wífman or similar spellings) meant "female human) ('woman' which is a worn down form of wyfman).

Just reintroduce werman for male humans and man will suddenly be gender-neutral again.

That said, if you start using "it" in relation to women, you're your own. I'll sit and eat pizza and drink a beer while the women abuse you :p

EDIT: You completely forgot the parallel to Life of Brian... *sigh* Svenskere har bare ingen kultur ;)

---dylansmrjones

*** Besides that, patents should be abolished ***

Edited 2009-07-09 16:22 UTC

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Moredhas Member since:
2008-04-10

I'm a human not a huperson. "Mankind" is a set that includes women, and if there were women in the army back then, the grand old Duke of York would still have and ten thousand men. I find "man" to be gender neutral enough in most circumstances, and the male pronoun "he" should do for a neutral one. Obviously wouldn't say "he" when you're specifically talking about a woman, but it's good enough for talking about some hypothetical person.

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MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

Agreed, but you'll get people saying that by using "he" to mean "he or she" you are perpetuating male domination through language patterns or something.

A gender neutral singular pronoun would not go amiss*. But please not, as the OP accused the Brits of using, "they". FFS.

*german has one. Ironically, it is "man". This is not the same word as "Mann" though ;)

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