Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 12th Jul 2009 14:03 UTC
Google Even though everyone's talking about it, fact of the matter is that Google's Chrome OS is currently nothing more than an internet announcement, with a supposed release date of somewhere in 2010. Google chief executive Eric Schmidt has now stated that netbooks running Chrome OS could appear as early as this year. In addition, Schmidt also talked about his position at Apple's board of directors.
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RE[3]: can't wait
by Laurence on Sun 12th Jul 2009 21:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: can't wait"
Laurence
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2007-03-26


In over a decade they (Microsoft) have yet to pioneer a web browser to conform to some standards that have been established for many years.

Pioneer isn't the right word for the context you're using it in.
But yeah, IE is sh!t - nobody is disputing that.
However, that's still a very poor example of MSs lack of innovation because MS were one of the fore-runners in integrating web-technologies into the users desktop (ok, many of their technologies were crappy, but none-the-less they were up there with desktop web-widgets long before Google was a popular search engine)

If innovation is done on the basis of implementing ideas and standards - then Google, Apple and the Open Source community steam roll over Microsoft.

You're talking about "implimenting open standards" rather than simply "implimenting ideas and standard" like you posted.
MS Office is a world standard office suite.
DOC / XLS (and their, more recent, 2007 XML counterparts) are as much a standard for documents in most organisations as PDFs are.
Sure, MSOffice's binary blobs might be a closed, propriatory standard. But it's still a globally recognised standard.
Same goes for IE. It maybe crappy and doesn't follow w3c standard, but by being on everyones desktop it's become a standard.


Regarding end users wanting things to 'just work'(tm) you are right - but just work means providing developers with technologies that allow them to create products that are easily accessible and aren't reliant on buggy plugins (Flash) or bloated and buggy API's (Win32).

I'm really not sure why you're arguing with me here as you're just reiterating the point I made re Google and Apple answering peoples despair.


So it is very much in the end users interest to ensuring that the web browser conforms to the latest standards

Nope. It's in there interest to ensure the technologies they use conform to OPEN standards.
Flash (buggy plugins and all) is a standard - it's just not an open standard.


[edit - as I'm getting modded down without follow up comments hehe]

I just want to point out that I'm no MS fanboy.
In fact, quite the opposite - I try to run their software as little as I can get away with (instead favouring open source when ever I can)

However, I just wanted to make the point that, as crappy as a great number of their products might be to me/us, they are still the world number 1, thus - like it or not - they are still one of the biggest standards out there.

Edited 2009-07-12 21:57 UTC

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