Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st Jul 2009 12:13 UTC
Microsoft With Apple doing really, really well, and with Microsoft having its first sets of negative figures since the company's founding, Microsoft CEO points his arrows towards Cupertino. In a talk to members of the press and analyst community, Ballmer talked about Microsoft vs. Apple.
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RE: Apple and high qualtiy
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 31st Jul 2009 14:01 UTC in reply to "Apple and high qualtiy"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Apple and high qualtity, I allways wonder were they get that from.


Same bewilderment here. I've not had a single Apple machine that wasn't broken in one way of the other.

Only had one normal PC fail, a Dell laptop where a screen hinge broke. The machine itself still works.

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RE[2]: Apple and high qualtiy
by boldingd on Fri 31st Jul 2009 15:10 in reply to "RE: Apple and high qualtiy"
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

I've owned several Macs, several HP PC's, and a lot of AMD/ATI/ASUS self-assembled machines. Guess where, by far, the highest failure rate is?

The bloody Macs. And God help you if you don't get Apple Care.

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RE[3]: Apple and high qualtiy
by KingRocky on Fri 31st Jul 2009 15:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Apple and high qualtiy"
KingRocky Member since:
2009-07-30

And God help you if you don't get Apple Care.


Aah, but if you DO get AppleCare, they will practically bend over backwards to fix whatever problem you may be having (most of the time, anyway).

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RE[2]: Apple and high qualtiy
by jakesdad on Fri 31st Jul 2009 19:37 in reply to "RE: Apple and high qualtiy"
jakesdad Member since:
2005-12-28

I have yet to have any of the macs I support die on tasks or hardware. I have on the other hand replaced more hp memory and system boards than I care to count.

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RE[3]: Apple and high qualtiy
by makkus on Sat 1st Aug 2009 05:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Apple and high qualtiy"
makkus Member since:
2006-01-11

>I have yet to have any of the macs I support die on
>tasks or hardware. I have on the other hand replaced >
>more hp memory and system boards than I care to count

Fine for you and I'm sure the 4 iMac will do fine with the task they now do, viewing stations running Osirix. But they are no workhorses, 6 fails within a week or two after I start using them doing heavy processing jobs in batch mode, processing MR images for DTI and FMRI, is not just accidently, it is symptomatic.

All I was saying is, for the same money I could have five HP workstations with 24 inch monitors who could do the viewing AND do the heavy processing AND had a longer hardware plan (five years), if only Osirix was more portable, it isn't like it does things only OSX can do, it just locked in by Cacoa and in lesser extend Objective C. The really important libraries ITk, VTK, DCMTK, OpenGL, MySQL Osirix is build on are cross platform.

But if you like your iMAC fine by me. Like I said they are real attention getters on my department, but I really like my equipment more versatile then shiny.

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binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

That's the thing about anecdotal evidence. People are more likely to express negative feedback then positive feedback.

If you look at the overall statistics and customer satisfaction surveys, Apple is ranked pretty darn high.

For my own personal, anecdotal evidence, I've owned and built many PCs over my lifetime. I've only ever owned two apple systems, one which I just bought recently.

I've also helped maintain many labs of computers at a school for a few years, and the Apple computer labs generally had significantly fewer hardware failures.

But I'm not willing to say that one type of hardware is generally better than another. Every company has their "stinkers" -- products with design flaws that affect the reliability of the hardware.

For me, I'm happy with both. My answer when someone asks me which one they should get is, "The right tool for the right job. It depends on what you want to use it for."

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

For me, I'm happy with both. My answer when someone asks me which one they should get is, "The right tool for the right job. It depends on what you want to use it for."


Exactly. I find the iMac the best desktop computer money can buy, so when my father wanted to replace his Windows desktop with a new machine, I bought an iMac for them (with their money, though ;) ).

He's very happy with it, which was exactly my intention. It is not my job to tell others how to feel about Apple - I don't like the company, and have announced I will no longer buy and use their products. However, my politics will not stop me from suggesting the right tool for the job to my family and friends.

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