Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 2nd Aug 2009 20:12 UTC, submitted by kiddo
A common complaint about GNOME is that it has a certain fetish for icons. Menu entries, buttons - everything has an icon attached to it which often wastes space needlessly by making buttons larger than they need to be, as well as menus wider than they need to be. The good news (for me, at least) is that the next GNOME release will have all these icons removed.
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RE: removing menu icons is BAD
by WereCatf on Mon 3rd Aug 2009 10:21
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Member since:2006-02-15
Menu icons are a good thing.
In menus they aren't all that useful. How often do you access menu at all? Most things are on the toolbar or accessed via a certain button in the interface. Those things are visible all the time so an icon on them makes more sense.
As for having a menu at all.. I've said it before and I say it again; it's useless to include both a menu and toolbar buttons. Either one or the other, not both. It's just duplication of functionality. Whenever I've coded something I've just made things straightforward enough that I can have left the whole menu out of the application. That's something GNOME devs should look into rather than pondering whether or not to have icons.
RE[2]: removing menu icons is BAD
by Vanders on Mon 3rd Aug 2009 11:34
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Member since:2005-07-06
I've said it before and I say it again; it's useless to include both a menu and toolbar buttons.
No. How would that work? Take a look at any typical application and the menu items will heavily outweigh the toolbar buttons.
The toolbar is there for quick access to common functions: you can't cram everything into the toolbar. Likewise most people wouldn't want to use something like a web browser where the "Back" functionality was only accessible via. a menu.
RE: removing menu icons is BAD
by ngnr on Mon 3rd Aug 2009 15:31
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Member since:2008-01-16
My idea is that we shouldn't listen to people who switched from windows but only to people who have been using linux only for 5 to 10 years.
hummm that's a great attitude that will help a lot of people to switch to linux. i´m sure they will feel well recieved into the community...
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2006-08-17
Removing menu icons is BAD BAD BAD. They serve for accessibility.
Even if you're half blind an you see a drawing that somewhat looks like an 'X', you'll know that it means 'close'.
We should really stop the following new trends in Linux computing:
1. Minimalistic userz who hatez xserver and anything usable.
2. Disgruntled windows users who switched to Linux and run Ubuntu and are continuously trying to change everything related to GUIs by complicating everything and trying to make Gnome a clone of windows vista (I haven't tried vista but I've seen screen shots so I know what I'm talking about). It's like the other day when I joined #gnome-shell on irc.gimp.org and showed my concern that forcing compositing is a bad idea for old systems. So the developers reply saying: well ubuntu has been using composing by default for a while now.
My idea is that we shouldn't listen to people who switched from windows but only to people who have been using linux only for 5 to 10 years.
Menu icons are a good thing. Even windows used them back in the 90s. Accessibility is not bloat!