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Actualy NO SINGLE GODAMN NATION won the WW2. Not Americans(if you can call them a nation), not British and not Soviets (ehm you somehow forgot those even if they provided the "turn of tide" with millions of deaths (unlike someone who boasts here).
It was a teamwork albeit difficult one. All sides made stupid descisions. ALL sides betrayed Czechoslovakia and others which was the biggest mistake(you can't be sure but if they didn't WW2 would probably not happen)
Russians killed their own officers because of Stalin, not to mention a certain treaty with nazis. USofAs were arrogant wishing to not get involed/get as much out of WW2 as possible(which they were successful at eventualy). Brits "held" but they aren't exactly the winners ether. They held their ground and helped on many fronts but didn't turn the tide.
So who won the war? Noone. But nazis lost that's the point.
"ALL sides betrayed Czechoslovakia and others which was the biggest mistake"
France and Britain also betrayed Poland promising them help if the germans attacked but help never came in any form. In my opinion no single nation won the war or no single nation was the cause of the war. WW2 was just an aftermarch to WW1 and WW1 started because of many reasons, Austrias situation for example.
Funny, over 200 posts and most of them are offtopic, people bashing each other or people arguing about history, including me.







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PS NO ONE HAS PAID BACK THE UNITED STATES FOR ITS HELP IN WW1 or WW2, EXCEPT FOR FINNLAND from WW1. IT'S A FACT.
Because the US didn't win WW2. If Britain hadn't stood firm in Europe when bastards like Joseph Kennedy (yes, JFK's very obnoxious dad) wanted to sell us down the river then with a large power base in Europe the Nazis would have certainly conquered the US with the Japanese from the other side. If our deterimination in winning the sea war in the Mediterranean and Atlantic hadn't materialised, and we hadn't gained a clear technical advantage over the Nazis from a losing position, and if we hadn't conveniently forgotten the attack on Pearl Harbour, which we knew about, you would never have got into the war and you could have waved bye, bye to apple pie and be eating sour kraut by now (or sushi). We led an intelligence war the silly Americans didn't even know existed.
Yes, Britain and other countries needed the US in the war because of the resources needed to fight, but this attitude that gung-ho America single-handedly won the war is just total bollocks. We won it together. Yes there was the Battle of Britain etc., but do we forget the Poles, Canadians, Australians and others who died unknown thousands of miles from home? No we don't. This self-righteous way in which a lot of Americans see themselves is going to come a cropper sooner rather than later.
The fact that we won wars all together, and we collaborate and do things together, means that we should have equal and fair transparency for the internet, since we all depend on it. If not, then I can see a situation where the US is cut off and the rest of the world creates its own internet. It really is not that difficult to do.