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Gnome As most of you will know, the GNOME team is hard at work on GNOME 3.0, the first major overhaul of the platform since 2002. The release of GNOME 3.0 was originally planned for March 2010, but it has now been pushed back for six months to September 2010.
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GNOME, nah, wait for Chrome OS.
by Jason Bourne on Wed 11th Nov 2009 17:50 UTC
Jason Bourne
Member since:
2007-06-02

1) KDE 4.0 was a major desktop overhaul, causing the desktop itself to become more complex, confusing and buggy. It took 4 feature release cycles to get the whole monster a bit stable, however, up to this day, I still think that the kickoff menu is cluttered with too much logic, drawers and hidden places. Linus abandoned KDE, and the userbase share is decreasing after this KDE community move: one of the stupidiest ones made in open source community.

2) GNOME 2.x while not being the hottest "major" desktop left for us to use, commits a deadly sin, treating every user like a plain silly dumb. I still don't know why the heck Nautilus is the default file manager on this desktop. I hate Nautilus, I can't lasso files in list view. I can't also understand why GNOME redraws are slower than anything I've seen. I have to have compiz enabled to be able to not see that. Perhaps GTK? Who cares... it is just the way it is. Although GNOME is OK, it is not the hottest thing on earth.

3) XFCE, if not by this ridiculous name, could be reaching the status of leading desktop. Unfortunately, distros don't focus polishment on this one in favour of GNOME. I don't know why the project owner insists with this name, I hope someday he will regret. His desktop could very well be the leading Linux desktop. Oh and tha ridiculous rat should be killed too. ;-)

4) What I see right now is that, although we are well served with many options, no options leads to a consensus - no options are the perfect desktop. If you mix their applications, everything gets messy and UI inconsistent.

5) Google Chrome OS is being developed and will be released. If these desktops we know don't do their homework, I am sure Chrome OS will storm the Linux arena. Take as an example the Chrome browser - it's definitely a Firefox/Opera killer. And it amazes me that neither Opera or Mozilla community ever thought of the changes Chrome introduced. We were going to be doomed for years, by these mediocre browsers. I do hope Chrome OS will make Ubuntu and Fedora regret for investing so much in GNOME.

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jibadeeha Member since:
2009-08-10

Oh and tha ridiculous rat should be killed too. ;-)


It is a mouse.

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sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

Linus abandoned KDE, and the userbase share is decreasing after this KDE community move: one of the stupidiest ones made in open source community.


Who cares about Linus preferred desktop. I don't think the userbase is decreasing. Take a look at all the available distros. Most of them come with gnome as default. That's where the gnome users come from (all those Ubuntu kids). There are no realistic metrics to measure desltop adoption. For sure, there are better Qt based apps (and some of them also KDE) that Gtk/Gnome.

2) GNOME 2.x while not being the hottest "major" desktop left for us to use, commits a deadly sin, treating every user like a plain silly dumb. I still don't know why the heck Nautilus is the default file manager on this desktop.


For some reason, I always liked Nautilus. That's why I love Dolphin, except it's way more powerfull.

Take as an example the Chrome browser - it's definitely a Firefox/Opera killer. And it amazes me that neither Opera or Mozilla community ever thought of the changes Chrome introduced. We were going to be doomed for years, by these mediocre browsers.


Wow, how unfair. You know most things Chrome has are copied from Opera? Google just took what others provided and invented and refined in a "better" browser.

I do hope Chrome OS will make Ubuntu and Fedora regret for investing so much in GNOME.


They can't be compared. I mean, being Chrome a browser, how can it compete with non browser based applications?

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Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

Who cares about Linus preferred desktop. I don't think the userbase is decreasing


Linus usually is right about his decisions. Abandoning KDE was an alive proof that the highest linux entity could not bear the "clever" changes KDE geeks made. And yes, the userbase is decreasing, Kubuntu has been going on a downward spiral, serious enough for them to publish in their homepage that they must do something about it. This is because of KDE4. People are going away from KDE4. No matter what KDE4 fanboys scream out there.


For some reason, I always liked Nautilus. That's why I love Dolphin, except it's way more powerfull.


It's so powerful, I can't even use it. There are 3 panels, a lot of vertical text, and have you tried copy files from a samba share in Konqui or Dolphin? Files don't even get fully copied. At least Nautilus does this well. In my honest opinion, KDE4 and their file managers just try to "get close as possible to Windows Vista/7 but not that in your face, to at least say, hey we're not windows at all"


Wow, how unfair. You know most things Chrome has are copied from Opera? Google just took what others provided and invented and refined in a "better" browser.


Someone has invented the ball, right? But the someone later created football (soccer). I don't care if Opera created tabs - the truth is that this browser never handled 80% of webpages out there, while Firefox did at least 95%. Chrome is a refined idea of what others almost got right, but never quite right.

They can't be compared. I mean, being Chrome a browser, how can it compete with non browser based applications?


The ideas can be compared. If Google does the same thing in Chrome OS, as they did with Chrome Browser, I think Ubuntu and Fedora, GNOME and KDE are going to lose a lot, and I mean a lot. There will be no room anymore for recovering userbase, after Microsoft Windows finds a real strong balanced open source competitor.

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KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

the userbase share is decreasing

If you have any hard data on that subject, I'm keen to see it. If you don't: STFU.

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orfanum Member since:
2006-06-02

Could you like tone it down brother? Either you have a point or you don't, but constant use of (even oblique) expletives and generally harsh language is entirely unnecessary: unless you are specifically out to demonstrate you have a monopoly in being uncouth, please give it a rest.

Thanks.

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