Linked by snydeq on Wed 6th Jan 2010 20:08 UTC
Google InfoWorld's Galen Gruman writes that the main potential game-changing attribute of the Nexus One - that Google is selling the device direct - does nothing to move the industry past carrier lock-in. "At first, I wanted to credit Google for making a tentative step in the direction of smartphone freedom. But that step is so tentative and ineffectual that frankly I think it's a cynical fig leaf covering the usual practices," Gruman writes. At issue is a political battle regarding walled gardens in the U.S. cellular market, a fight that will take years to result in any true consumer freedom. "The only way we'll ever get the ability to choose a smartphone and carrier independently is for the platform providers that count - Apple, Google, and RIM - to first develop only multiband 'world' smartphones and then refuse to sell their devices (or in Google's case, use its Android license to forbid the sale of devices) to carriers that block or interfere with device portability."
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nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

who the hell started such a stupid screwed up system like that? If I ever did move to the US the one thing I wouldn't be getting is a mobile phone if I am forced to pay for every jack ass who sends me a text message or rings me up!


The system comes from ye old cellular network in the 80's when wireless data transmission was very expensive so they charged whenever the cell was in use.

The US system has been more of an innovative wild west while other countries have been able to design their systems around our experiences.

You only get screwed if you have a plan that isn't designed around your habits. For example send a thousand texts without getting the $5 a month unlimited texting.

As a percentage of living costs the cell phone bill isn't much. Most of the day labor Mexicans have cell phones.

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arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

Yeah, but what if that other guys gets the unlimited text messaging and sends you a thousand texts.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Yeah, but what if that other guys gets the unlimited text messaging and sends you a thousand texts.


Well if it is your friend then you need to tell him that you are too cheap to get the $5 a month account upgrade.

If someone you don't know keeps sending you unwanted texts then that is harassment and you can have the number blocked and the charges removed.

What most people don't realize is that charges from excessive usage are negotiable. The cell phone companies are afraid of losing you as a customer since people in the US typically sign 2 year contracts and rarely switch companies.

There's also prepaid phones if you don't want to sign a contact. They get pretty cheap which is why you see elementary school kids with them. The phone price is subsidized with the expectation that you will buy more minutes. To give you an idea of how cheap they get I saw a $30 new model nokia at the grocery store that came with 1000 minutes.

Edited 2010-01-08 19:54 UTC

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Text is bad.. data is even worse. Exactly what justifies $2.00 per meg of transfer? Don't pay 40$ a month for the data plan and your 50 meg of iPhone usage will be a 100$ extra on next month's bill.. and that's if your lucky enough to notice that it's using the cell towers instead of local wifi as desired.

Let's all say it together:

"What the market - because alone, none of us is as stupid as we are together - will bare."

(what ever happened to fair markup.)

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Text is bad.. data is even worse. Exactly what justifies $2.00 per meg of transfer? Don't pay 40$ a month for the data plan and your 50 meg of iPhone usage will be a 100$ extra on next month's bill.. and that's if your lucky enough to notice that it's using the cell towers instead of local wifi as desired.


Isn't the data plan required now? I'm guessing they got too many complaints with that.

Not that I want to diminish your complaint any. I once downloaded peggle for a cell phone and while the game was $7 the transfer fee was $8. It didn't exactly inspire me to buy more games.

Edited 2010-01-08 20:00 UTC

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erak Member since:
2006-09-24

The US system has been more of an innovative wild west while other countries have been able to design their systems around our experiences.

Any sources on that?

AFAIK, the most widely spread standard, GSM, was developed in Europe. And 3G was first used in Japan.

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