Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Feb 2010 19:06 UTC, submitted by diegocg
KDE And there we are, the KDE team has released KDE Software Compilation 4.4, formerly known as, well, KDE. Major new features include social networking and online collaboration integration, the new netbook interface, the KAuth authentication framework, and a lot more.
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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 9th Feb 2010 22:10 UTC
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

This isn't probably the place to ask these questions but I'll go ahead anyway:

1) Is there a plan to move away form HAL in favour of udisks/upower/libudev? do the developers have a schedule and if so what release are they aiming for regarding complete removal of HAL dependency?

2) When KDE is running on FreeBSD, is there a dependency on HAL?

3) Have they finalised the networkmanager front end? the last time I checked it was still in development/alpha with no real time line for eventual merging into the KDE distribution.

The reason why I ask is that I've found that nine times out of ten when I've had problems all roads always seem to lead back to HAL. The moment when HAL was removed from Fedora all the bugs relating to handling storage devices went and the battery life improved monumentally.

I'm also interesting regarding networkmanager front end because I'd sooner have a KDE native front end than having to deal with a GTK based on - from what I understand there was going to be a one but I never heard anything beyond a couple of posts.

Much thanks to those who can set me on the right path regarding those questions.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by KAMiKAZOW on Wed 10th Feb 2010 01:55 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

Is there a plan to move away form HAL in favour of udisks/upower/libudev? do the developers have a schedule and if so what release are they aiming for regarding complete removal of HAL dependency?

KDE SC uses Solid for hardware interaction. Solid can have whatever back-end. In 4.4 it still uses HAL (at least on my openSUSE installation).

Have they finalised the networkmanager front end? the last time I checked it was still in development/alpha with no real time line for eventual merging into the KDE distribution.

KNetworkManager4 works fine, but it won't enter the main KDE Software Compilation. KNetworkManager4 is an Extragear app with its own release cycle.
SUSE's Will Stephenson worked hard to make KNM4 usable in time for openSUSE's 11.2 release which was last November or so.

That said, I still use GNOME's nm-applet very often. nm-applet has the ability to import Cisco's VPN profile files and whenever I'm connected to an open WLAN, I quit KNM4 and launch nm-a instead to use VPN.
KNM4 can use VPN, too, but the all settings have to be done manually and I'm too lazy for that. ;-)

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by Soulbender on Wed 10th Feb 2010 07:34 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

KNetworkManager4 works fine


Only if you don't need to use wireless broadband cuz that doesn't work at all. The UI could also do with not sucking so much.

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