Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 11th Feb 2010 18:29 UTC
Opera Software Everybody's favourite Norwegian browser maker has released the beta version of Opera 10.50, the next iteration of the featureful web browser. As Kroc already touched upon late last year, Opera 10.50 comes packed with a lot of improvements across the board, from a new JavaScript engine to an improved address field.
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PresentIt
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2010-02-10

I don't see any major bugs. MDI mostly works as it used to.

If you think it's unusual for a beta to not be feature complete, you certainly haven't used a lot of Opera betas ;)

Opera didn't have a Windows look and feel before. It does now. What you are referring to as "Windows look and feel" in previous versions was nothing but a custom skin!

You are getting it all upside down.

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Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

I don't see any major bugs. MDI mostly works as it used to.


MDI is so bug ridden and problematic in 10.5 it's pretty much unusable. Actually try using it for browsing - it's a complete mess.

For a start, it'll automatically maximise MDI windows if they can't fit fully in the main Opera window. This is just crazy in a browser where you turn on and off panels and drag down the tab bar to show visual tabs. Turn on a large panel or make the tab bar too large and suddenly all the cascaded MDI windows will maximise.

If you move MDI windows partially off screen then turning on or resizing any toolbar causes them to jump fully on screen. This on its own makes MDI in 10.5 a total pain to use.

Minimising pages doesn't work properly. There's no button on the MDI windows titlebar, and if you minimise from the Opera tab bar, then close Opera and restart the session, the minimised windows don't restore correctly.

Open a window in the background with a middle click and the background MDI window covers up the top window's window decoration.

There are quite a few other bugs too, like intermittent issues with resizing windows.

If you think it's unusual for a beta to not be feature complete, you certainly haven't used a lot of Opera betas ;)


I've used just about every Opera beta for years quite happily as my main browser. Normally Opera betas, and even some alphas, feel 99% complete with only minor issues and bugs.

This is the first one that I find unusable as a day to day browser, with major problems that render my favourite features a mess. I'd expect such obvious bugs to be fixed during alpha testing.

Opera didn't have a Windows look and feel before. It does now. What you are referring to as "Windows look and feel" in previous versions was nothing but a custom skin!


Total nonsense. Yes, you had to turn on the included 'Windows Native' skin, restoring the look that was the default in earlier versions of Opera, but that one change made Opera look and feel like a standard Windows MDI app.

Opera 10.5 does not look like a standard Windows app, even with a custom skin, and more importantly it definitely does not feel like one.

Edited 2010-02-12 11:38 UTC

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PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

Actually, Opera does look much more like a native Windows application. At least if you are using a recent version of Windows. Get with the program, and get Windows 7. XP is dead.

As for betas being feature complete, you are wrong indeed.

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