Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Mar 2010 21:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV "A lot of commercial software comes with H.264 encoders and decoders, and some computers arrive with this software preinstalled. This leads a lot of people to believe that they can legally view and create H.264 videos for whatever purpose they like. Unfortunately for them, it ain't so."
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RE[3]: Greed
by lemur2 on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 11:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Greed"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

"Oh yes, greed. God forbid anyone get paid for any of this...

Rah rah, fight the power.


No problem with them getting paid for their codec, greed, etc. I'll just use a competing free product, and someone else can pay them. Fortunately, I don't have any need for h264.
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It is already paid for. Mozilla gave just $100,000 to Xiph.org to fund the Thusnelda project that achieved considerable improvements in Theora:

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/01/mozilla-contributes...

and x264 implements h.264 as a non-funded free software project:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

... so even with the most outlandish inefficiencies and incompetence the original development costs for h.264 couldn't be more than a few tens of millions.

Just a few licenses from large users (digital TV broadcast, for example) would have paid that back years ago.

http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/h264-royalties-what...
Under the terms of the agreement, you have two options: a one-time payment of $2,500 “per AVC transmission encoder” or an annual fee starting at “$2,500 per calendar year per Broadcast Markets of at least 100,000 but no more than 499,999 television households, $5,000 per calendar year per Broadcast Market which includes at least 500,000 but no more than 999,999 television households, and $10,000 per calendar year per Broadcast Market which includes at 1,000,000 or more television households.”


$10,000 per year from 10,000 digital TV stations (worldwide there would be far more than that) is $100,000 million per year right there. From just one market.

As the OP said ... greed. Pure greed.

Edited 2010-03-02 11:54 UTC

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RE[4]: Greed
by lemur2 on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 12:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Greed"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17


$10,000 per year from 10,000 digital TV stations (worldwide there would be far more than that) is $100,000 million per year right there. From just one market.

As the OP said ... greed. Pure greed.


Sorry, a correction is required: ... $100 million per year from 10,000 digital TV stations.

$100,000 million per year is 10 million digital TV stations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition

That might be nearly all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_digital_television_deployments...

Edited 2010-03-02 12:34 UTC

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RE[5]: Greed
by nt_jerkface on Tue 2nd Mar 2010 18:31 in reply to "RE[4]: Greed"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Where did you get 10k stations from?

It's 10k per year if you have a market of over 1 million people. Very few HD markets are that large. Most Americans still don't have an HDTV.

They aren't going broke but you're speculating a bit much here.

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