Linked by Preston5 on Sat 27th Mar 2010 11:46 UTC
Multimedia, AV In January, we had read the various arguments regarding Mozilla's decision not to get an H.264 license. This has generated a lot of discussion about the future of video on the web. With Youtube, Dailymotion, Hulu and Vimeo having adopted H.264 for HD video, Mozilla and Opera should use the codecs installed on a user's system to determine what the browser can play, rather than force other vendors to adopt Ogg. Refusing to support a superior codec would be a disservice to your users in years to come. Why hold back the majority of your users because 2% of your users are on niche OSes?
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You don't get it
by KClowers on Sun 28th Mar 2010 02:03 UTC
KClowers
Member since:
2009-12-18

H.264 is patented and therefore IT. IS. UNACCEPTABLE. End of discussion.

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RE: You don't get it
by darknexus on Sun 28th Mar 2010 02:25 in reply to "You don't get it"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

H.264 is patented and therefore IT. IS. UNACCEPTABLE. End of discussion.

Nice thought and I agree. Sadly, the big guys don't and it is they who ultimately decide such things. We, the users, can use Theora and push it all we want, but if the big content providers don't want it they won't adopt it, and it is the most asked for content that ultimately decides the standards whether they be official or de facto. We need only look at how Flash rose to such a position to see this.

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RE: You don't get it
by daveak on Sun 28th Mar 2010 18:38 in reply to "You don't get it"
daveak Member since:
2008-12-29

GIF was patented as well, by 3 separate companies each claiming to own a patent on it. We ignored it and used GIF anyway.

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RE: You don't get it
by twitterfire on Sun 28th Mar 2010 19:32 in reply to "You don't get it"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

Maybe we should fight against software patents in general not refuse to use a software that is much better than it's competition and remain in the stone age of computing just because some stupid activists say so.

I'm not Stallman to use some stupid old technology because it's free, run my e-mails in console because it's "free", write my texts in Emacs because it's "free", hack to see ugly ogg/theora in console because it's "free", play stupid text games because it's "free".

I use something because is "best", not "free", not even "better". I would prefer it being "free" and open source, but if it isn't , I'll still use it being the "best".

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RE[2]: You don't get it
by PresentIt on Sun 28th Mar 2010 19:49 in reply to "RE: You don't get it"
PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

Maybe we should fight against software patents in general not refuse to use a software that is much better than it's competition and remain in the stone age of computing just because some stupid activists say so.

Define "better", please. BETTER on the web means free and open. H264 is neither.

The web exists because of free and open standards. Using H264 would be the same as going back to IE6 as the dominant browser. It messes up the web.

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