Linked by Kroc Camen on Mon 29th Mar 2010 16:04 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Hot on the heals of Oracle's revamp of Solaris support, the licensing agreement for free downloads of Solaris 10 have changed. Here is the bit in question: "...Please remember, your right to use Solaris acquired as a download is limited to a trial of 90 days, unless you acquire a service contract for the downloaded Software". So far the OpenSolaris license has not changed, it's still CDDL."
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and who uses Solaris ?
by boulabiar on Mon 29th Mar 2010 16:46 UTC
boulabiar
Member since:
2009-04-18

people use Windows or Linux or MacOS.

What's the thing solaris provide and that can't be found in one of these 3 OSes ?
(don't tell me ZFS...)

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RE: and who uses Solaris ?
by telns on Mon 29th Mar 2010 17:23 in reply to "and who uses Solaris ?"
telns Member since:
2009-06-18

Solaris scales significantly better than any of the main commercial Linuxes, and is more stable under super high loads.

Not a dig at Linux. Solaris just has a lot of years head start focusing on those kinds of environments.

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by tony on Tue 30th Mar 2010 22:01 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
tony Member since:
2005-07-06

Solaris scales significantly better than any of the main commercial Linuxes, and is more stable under super high loads.

Not a dig at Linux. Solaris just has a lot of years head start focusing on those kinds of environments.


"If it's been widely reported, that makes it Factesque"-Stephen Colbert

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by segedunum on Tue 30th Mar 2010 22:13 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Solaris scales significantly better than any of the main commercial Linuxes, and is more stable under super high loads.

That must be how and why Linux has largely replaced Solaris in such areas and why Sun went out of business. I see the refrain still hasn't died.

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by xaeropower on Tue 30th Mar 2010 23:13 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
xaeropower Member since:
2005-12-16

"Super high" loads like what? scientific applications?

I had linux and bsd servers with super high loads mostly used for lamp, web loadbalancers and they do just as well.

The only reason why Solaris, AIX still has market because some mission critical systems are built with them and they provide abilities such as hotswapping cpus,memory etc. or keep running in case of kernel panic.

I never had to work with solaris more than install and maintain it but my opinion is that its a major crap system and all the pros I heard from people like you is exactly like this.
80% of the ISPs use solaris, for what?
Asterisk works better on solaris, orly?
Write down a list of 10 applications which really scales better on it. I think you couldn't because those are all inhouse developed applications what you never heard of.

Edited 2010-03-30 23:14 UTC

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RE: and who uses Solaris ?
by bhtooefr on Mon 29th Mar 2010 17:25 in reply to "and who uses Solaris ?"
bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

Top-notch documentation - try finding that for Linux. Or Windows, although acceptable Windows docs are usually available. I'm not familiar enough with OS X docs to know how good they are, though.

Boot environments - hose your configuration? Just boot into an older BE, and it's just like it was before.

Sane memory management - this is primarily a knock on Linux, but... it doesn't allocate memory that doesn't exist, unlike Linux. (That's not to say it doesn't allocate over the actual system RAM, it will, but only up to RAM+swap. Linux will allocate more than RAM+swap.)

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by ssokolow on Mon 29th Mar 2010 20:56 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

There's a sysctl that can be used to turn off memory over-commit on Linux if you don't like it.

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by jimmystewpot on Mon 29th Mar 2010 23:57 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
jimmystewpot Member since:
2006-01-19

I have to agree with you on the documentation while at the same time disagreeing. There are many aspects of Solaris which are really well documented. There are other sections which are more 'application' or 'daemon' specific which are very poorly documented.

The core operating system is great for docs, the additional services sometimes leave something to be desired.

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RE: and who uses Solaris ?
by Piranha on Mon 29th Mar 2010 17:26 in reply to "and who uses Solaris ?"
Piranha Member since:
2008-06-24

I do. For my fileserver/VM box.
ZFS
Dtrace (though haven't used yet)
Containers - runs both OpenSolaris and linux (little overhead). So easy to setup, and VERY powerful
ZFS - yep, twice
Very good Virtualbox support - it runs my VMs. Also allows for xVM(Xen) support - also in Linux
Crossbow Networking
Performance - yep, look at the latest OpenSolaris numbers compared to Linux AND FreeBSD..

Trying out both Linux and Freebsd for my fileserver, but I switched back immediately. I use Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Windows on OTHER hardware, but for my fileserver and VM machine, I haven't found anything comparable to OpenSolaris.

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RE[2]: and who uses Solaris ?
by Slambert666 on Tue 30th Mar 2010 07:31 in reply to "RE: and who uses Solaris ?"
Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30

Trying out both Linux and Freebsd for my fileserver, but I switched back immediately. I use Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Windows on OTHER hardware, but for my fileserver and VM machine, I haven't found anything comparable to OpenSolaris.


....and you do not congest the network with all those pesky security updates....

Since OpenSolaris does not receive updates any more.

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People with real jobs?
by tylerdurden on Mon 29th Mar 2010 21:27 in reply to "and who uses Solaris ?"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Solaris is the #1 platform used by Oracle customers.

Yes, in the real world large organizations actually pay for software. And reliability, stability, and support contracts are actually the deciding factors for their purchasing decisions.

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RE: People with real jobs?
by flanque on Tue 30th Mar 2010 09:54 in reply to "People with real jobs?"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

And reliability, stability, and support contracts are actually the deciding factors for their purchasing decisions.

This is very true.

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RE: and who uses Solaris ?
by dimosd on Mon 29th Mar 2010 23:23 in reply to "and who uses Solaris ?"
dimosd Member since:
2006-02-10

To answer your question, Solaris is used by corporations who own Sun machines, where they offer real advantages, and not anyone else really.

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