Linked by Kroc Camen on Sun 9th May 2010 12:34 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Dear Ubuntu, for the last couple years life has been good. Every time I've shown you to a friend or family member, they've compared you to what they're familiar with--Windows XP or Vista, mostly--and by comparison you've looked brilliant. Yeah, your ugly brown color scheme was a bit off-putting at first, but once people saw how secure, simple, and reliable you were, the response was almost universally positive. But recently, things have changed ..."
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Hmm
by darknexus on Sun 9th May 2010 13:25 UTC
darknexus
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2008-07-15

Well, I'm not sure if the cracks are starting to show on Ubuntu just yet. If there are going to be serious cracks though, they're going to hit soon probably in the 10.10 release. I'll wait until I actually use them hands-on, but the removal of the notification area and those windicator things don't really seem to make good design sense.
As for Windows 7 though, I'm probably one of the few that doesn't think very highly of it. The best I can say about is that it's better than Vista, but that's not what I personally consider praise. Its stability is fine even though its resource and disk space usage seem to be a bit on the high side as compared to most Linux-based oses, and all that disk usage without actually providing any useful applications like an email or messenger client (to get those you must download them separately, so why on earth does 7 take up 6.5 gb of disk space on a fresh install?). I could live with that though, what bugs me about 7 is the UI. I didn't like Vista's UI, so for the most part I don't much care for 7's. The dock-like taskbar is nice, but the rest of it just feels overweight and clunky. I'm sure it *looks* slick (can't tell myself, being blind as a bat and all), but to me it feels slow. That's one of the reasons I don't use it, the other being the artificially crippled nature of it. All os components are installed, even with Starter that comes with some netbooks. All of them. They take up space on my disk, yet I can't remove them without resorting to unsupported hacks, but I also can't use them because of Microsoft's artificial limitations. Granted the majority of home users aren't going to care about this bit, but oh well this is from my viewpoint isn't it? The final reason is WGA or whatever the new name is for it. I'm sick of updates to activation telling me I have a pirated copy of Windows. I do not, pure and simple. Add those three reasons all up and Windows 7 is just more annoying to me than it's worth. Ymmv, this is just how I feel about it.

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RE: Hmm
by Lennie on Sun 9th May 2010 13:36 in reply to "Hmm"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I and a colleague at work tried Windows 7, yes it's better then Windows Vista, but Windows XP and even Windows 2000 are still simpler to use.

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Exactly
by shotsman on Sun 9th May 2010 18:15 in reply to "RE: Hmm"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

I haven't tried W7 but Server 2008 is driving me nuts. It is so frigging different from Server 2003 that stuff that used to work nicely no longer does. The bloody UAC gets in the way.
The forced policies get in the way.
Running it in a non AD environment is a real PITA.

I'm not a regular Ubuntu user either. Fedora & RHEL/CentOS is more my bag but from what I have seen om my friends use of it, they are not a million miles away from Kroc on this. Two have gone back to Debian already.

To be honest, I've just about given up on Linux for the desktop. All my servers (Apart from one running Server 2008) run Centos or Fedora. I decided I didn't want to 'tinker' with my desktop any longer so I took the plunge and bought a Mac Book Pro. AS someone who has been writing Software for nearly 40 years, it 'Just Works'. Ubuntu fails miserably on this for the way I work. OS-X wins hands round.

To summarise, IMHO, both W7 & Ubuntu are going in the wrong direction. W7 is getting far to complicated. Ubuntu is losing the plot. As the article say, there is no one leading the design. They need an equivalent to Jonathan Ive to lead them out of the mire they re getting into.

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